Are you smarter than The Obama? - Page 54
08-17-11, 12:08 AM #531
notwithstanding your clear violation, you have to try to explain why blacks do so much worse on tests than whites and asians even when they come from wealthy families. Is it due to
1) innate ability
2) alleged racism in the school system
3) or that some groups value education more
while you are pondering those three choices, why do Jews make up large numbers of the students at the very best universities, colleges, and Law and Medical schools. Why are there far more Jewish senators than the 2% (ie 2) that would be the predicted norm. (both senators from California are Jewish to start with)
08-17-11, 12:09 AM #532
you haven't read the stuff I have cited? or the stuff RD has cited?
08-17-11, 12:10 AM #533
The entire liberal viewpoint on race is predicated on creationist thinking. You guys have a holy belief that all of mankind is uniform in intelligence. That's demonstrably false. Rather than accept the consequences which arise from evolution you simply ignore them and you have the chutzpah to claim that you don't dispute the science which is built on evolutionary principles.
All around us is evidence that the consequences of mutation, selection effects and drift, have resulted in a wide variance on a number of human metrics and that the variance is not distributed equally amongst members of racial groups. No one has much problem with this so far, but liberals hold that some mysterious force field kept brains immune from any change and that everyone is equal.
That is an appeal to mysticism. That's creationism. Creationism is the foundation of the liberal world view.
08-17-11, 12:10 AM #534
notwithstanding your clear violation, you have to try to explain why blacks do so much worse on tests than whites and asians even when they come from wealthy families.
you gonna provide a source for this? if not then I will assume its from Stormfront.org
Why are there far more Jewish senators than the 2% (ie 2) that would be the predicted norm. (both senators from California are Jewish to start with)
08-17-11, 12:11 AM #535
The entire liberal viewpoint on race is predicated on creationist thinking....
08-17-11, 12:14 AM #536
That's simply you putting words into my mouth. Find where I wrote anything that resembles what you wrote. Inherently. Pah.
Let me turn it around on you. I've given you a freakin graduate seminar on psychometrics here, so return the favor and prove your case that intelligence doesn't vary across population groups.
Assuming positions in contravention of evidence is the hallmark of a religious article of faith.
08-17-11, 12:16 AM #537
Why do you obstruct threads demanding people repeat the proof that you demand. I cited that study by Rothstein et al that shows that blacks scored almost none of the top LSAT scores the year Obama was applying to law school
here is another bit of proof
n 1976 The College Board published an analysis of the racial differences in scores of the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT). At that time the average black score was about 240 points, or 20 percent, below the average white score. When The College Board next examined the racial scoring gap in the early 1980s, the gap had shrunk to 200 points. Black scores were then 17 percent lower than white scores. By 1988 the black-white SAT test scoring gap was down to 189 points. The trend was distinctly encouraging. Many specialists in the educational community predicted that in time the racial scoring gap would disappear altogether.
The gap in SAT scores persists even at the highest levels of achievement. A study of the 1989 applicants to five highly-selective universities found that white candidates' average combined SAT score was 186 points higher than the corresponding SAT average for African American applicants. Close to 75 percent of the white applicants scored over 1200 on the SAT, while 29 percent of black applicants did. The results of this study were reported in the 1998 book The Shape of the River: Long-Term Consequences of Considering Race in College and University Admissions, by Derek Bok and William Bowen, former presidents of Harvard and Princeton universities.
08-17-11, 12:16 AM #538
..Let me turn it around on you. I've given you a freakin graduate seminar on psychometrics here, so return the favor and prove your case that intelligence doesn't vary across population groups....
please show us IQ scores from Africans and Europeans (not in the USA), all of the same socio-economic status, showing that blacks do poorer than whites.
08-17-11, 12:18 AM #539
08-17-11, 12:20 AM #540
When black or mixed-race children are raised in white rather than black homes, their preadolescent test scores rise dramatically. Black adoptees' scores seem to fall in adolescence, but this is what we would expect if, as seems likely, their social and cultural environment comes to resemble that of other black adolescents and becomes less like that of the average white adolescent.
Are you smarter than The Obama? - Page 54
08-17-11, 12:08 AM #531
notwithstanding your clear violation, you have to try to explain why blacks do so much worse on tests than whites and asians even when they come from wealthy families. Is it due to
1) innate ability
2) alleged racism in the school system
3) or that some groups value education more
while you are pondering those three choices, why do Jews make up large numbers of the students at the very best universities, colleges, and Law and Medical schools. Why are there far more Jewish senators than the 2% (ie 2) that would be the predicted norm. (both senators from California are Jewish to start with)
08-17-11, 12:09 AM #532
you haven't read the stuff I have cited? or the stuff RD has cited?
08-17-11, 12:10 AM #533
The entire liberal viewpoint on race is predicated on creationist thinking. You guys have a holy belief that all of mankind is uniform in intelligence. That's demonstrably false. Rather than accept the consequences which arise from evolution you simply ignore them and you have the chutzpah to claim that you don't dispute the science which is built on evolutionary principles.
All around us is evidence that the consequences of mutation, selection effects and drift, have resulted in a wide variance on a number of human metrics and that the variance is not distributed equally amongst members of racial groups. No one has much problem with this so far, but liberals hold that some mysterious force field kept brains immune from any change and that everyone is equal.
That is an appeal to mysticism. That's creationism. Creationism is the foundation of the liberal world view.
08-17-11, 12:10 AM #534
notwithstanding your clear violation, you have to try to explain why blacks do so much worse on tests than whites and asians even when they come from wealthy families.
you gonna provide a source for this? if not then I will assume its from Stormfront.org
Why are there far more Jewish senators than the 2% (ie 2) that would be the predicted norm. (both senators from California are Jewish to start with)
08-17-11, 12:11 AM #535
The entire liberal viewpoint on race is predicated on creationist thinking....
08-17-11, 12:14 AM #536
That's simply you putting words into my mouth. Find where I wrote anything that resembles what you wrote. Inherently. Pah.
Let me turn it around on you. I've given you a freakin graduate seminar on psychometrics here, so return the favor and prove your case that intelligence doesn't
 vary across population groups.
Assuming positions in contravention of evidence is the hallmark of a religious article of faith.
08-17-11, 12:16 AM #537
Why do you obstruct threads demanding people repeat the proof that you demand. I cited that study by Rothstein et al that shows that blacks scored almost none of the top LSAT scores the year Obama was applying to law school
here is another bit of proof
n 1976 The College Board published an analysis of the racial differences in scores of the Scholastic Assessment Test (SAT). At that time the average black score was about 240 points, or 20 percent, below the average white score. When The College Board next examined the racial scoring gap in the early 1980s, the gap had shrunk to 200 points. Black scores were then 17 percent lower than white scores. By 1988 the black-white SAT test scoring gap was down to 189 points. The trend was distinctly encouraging. Many specialists in the educational community predicted that in time the racial scoring gap would disappear altogether.
The gap in SAT scores persists even at the highest levels of achievement. A study of the 1989 applicants to five highly-selective universities found that white candidates' average combined SAT score was 186 points higher than the corresponding SAT average for African American applicants. Close to 75 percent of the white applicants scored over 1200 on the SAT, while 29 percent of black applicants did. The results of this study were reported in the 1998 book The Shape of the River: Long-Term Consequences of Considering Race in College and University Admissions, by Derek Bok and William Bowen, former presidents of Harvard and Princeton universities.
08-17-11, 12:16 AM #538
..Let me turn it around on you. I've given you a freakin graduate seminar on psychometrics here, so return the favor and prove your case that intelligence doesn't vary across population groups....
please show us IQ scores from Africans and Europeans (not in the USA), all of the same socio-economic status, showing that blacks do poorer than whites.
08-17-11, 12:18 AM #539
08-17-11, 12:20 AM #540
When black or mixed-race children are raised in white rather than black homes, their preadolescent test scores rise dramatically. Black adoptees' scores seem to fall in adolescence, but this is what we would expect if, as seems likely, their social and cultural environment comes to resemble that of other black adolescents and becomes less like that of the average white adolescent.