Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by ev on 23 August 2012 8:36pm
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by tucsonmike on 24 August 2012 1:51am
Can I believe it; yes. Would I bet on it? No
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Spursfan2 on 24 August 2012 8:38am
I don't think it particularly nmatters what a president's religious views are (within reason of course!!).
What I DO find totally SICK (as an outsider) is that Mitt Romney, who has admitted travelling for hundreds of miles with his dog in a carrier strapped to the roof, is a potential president!!
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by ev on 24 August 2012 10:18am
I think a person's religious beliefs are very significant - they guide their entire world view, which in turn strongly influences their decisions. The Mormon belief system is very much an 'us and them' affair. Non-believers go to hell, loyal church members go to heaven. No ifs or buts.
Also the candidate's beliefs about the USA are strongly in the direction of 'we rule the world':
http://www.mittromney.com/collection/foreign-policy
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Loretto on 24 August 2012 7:19pm
My first cousin who was about to become a nun fell in love with a Mormon and is now married to him, for the last 30+ years.
Her brothers and sisters say that they, including their mother, were not permitted inside the temple for the wedding ceremony and there was no alcohol at the after party. The family was 100% Irish, that went down a real treat, let me tell you.
When my Aunt died four years ago they showed up for the funeral. The children of this couple, fine looking women, when they crossed their legs you could see they were wearing something like long johns that came to their knees. I am not kidding you! They call them the Holy Garments. They shower with them on, then take them off to dry themselves and get into the next clean pair of Holy Garments ASAP.
http://cheezburger.com/4020947712
Long story short, 4 out of their 5 children have left the Mormon Faith, and the dad is a High Mormon and best buds with Romney, he showed me pics at the last funeral we met up at. Funerals are a great way to catch up with people really.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Wheelrim on 25 August 2012 1:22pm
Not big on religion myself, I am an Athiest I suppose, so much not into it in fact that I rarely think about it for myself. They say friends should never discuss politics or religion, this thread covers both. Ev has hit the nail on the head there, it certainly matters what a leaders religious beliefs are. Look at the worlds leaders, their faiths, and what their doctrine is and how it is followed and its results. Dont knock who is currently in office in the UK or the US too much. It could be worse. Very worse.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Ken Dunn on 25 August 2012 7:26pm
Yes, Wheelrim, I tend to avoid politics and religion too except when I am considering my vote or deciding when to go to church.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Spursfan2 on 26 August 2012 9:58am
When I said it doesn't matter what a president's religious views are I was trying to highlight the fact that this man (Mitt Romney) is a cruel, vile, obnoxious man who thinks nothing of strapping his dog to the roof of his car for 12-hour trips, then, when his dog got sick/pooped Romney hosed him down and put him back on the roof of his car. THAT to me speaks volumes - I don't NEED to know what religion he happoens to follow to see what a s**t he is!!
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by johnnyBgood! on 26 August 2012 12:09pm
You're like a dog with a bone over that thing with the dog on the roof. It was over 30 years ago and no harm came to the dog.
You're letting Romney off lightly if that's all you can say about him.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Loretto on 26 August 2012 2:06pm
The fact that Romney placed a "simple" bet to the sum of $10,000 tells me he has about as much in common with the ordinary American citizen as a hippopotamus has in common with a flea.
Obama has not done everything that he promised, but it took Bush Junior 8 years to f*#k the whole thing up, it is going to take Obama more than one term as presdident to make things better.
And let's face it, America's largest export is weapons of war. England's too by the way. So, if the world is at peace, China leads the global market selling mass produced items. If there is a war, America and the UK take over the global market lead.
When was there ever a time in the global histroy of presidents and prime ministers in the developed nations, where there wasn't a war or conflict?
It is very sad that wars make economies boom.
Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by ev on 23 August 2012 8:36pm
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by tucsonmike on 24 August 2012 1:51am
Can I believe it; yes. Would I bet on it? No
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Spursfan2 on 24 August 2012 8:38am
I don't think it particularly nmatters what a president's religious views are (within reason of course!!).
What I DO find totally SICK (as an outsider) is that Mitt Romney, who has admitted travelling for hundreds of miles with his dog in a carrier strapped to the roof, is a potential president!!
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by ev on 24 August 2012 10:18am
I think a person's religious beliefs are very significant - they guide their entire world view, which in turn strongly influences their decisions. The Mormon belief system is very much an 'us and them' affair. Non-believers go to hell, loyal church members go to heaven. No ifs or buts.
Also the candidate's beliefs about the USA are strongly in the direction of 'we rule the world':
http://www.mittromney.com/collection/foreign-policy
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Loretto on 24 August 2012 7:19pm
My first cousin who was about to become a nun fell in love with a Mormon and is now married to him, for the last 30+ years.
Her brothers and sisters say that they, including their mother, were not permitted inside the temple for the wedding ceremony and there was no alcohol at the after party. The family was 100% Irish, that went down a real treat, let me tell you.
When my Aunt died four years ago they showed up for the funeral. The children of this couple, fine looking women, when they crossed their legs you could see they were wearing something like long johns that came to their knees. I am not kidding you! They call them the Holy Garments. They shower with them on, then take them off to dry themselves and get into the next clean pair of Holy Garments ASAP.
http://cheezburger.com/4020947712
Long story short, 4 out of their 5 children have left the Mormon Faith, and the dad is a High Mormon and best buds with Romney, he showed me pics at the last funeral we met up at. Funerals are a great way to catch up with people really.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Wheelrim on 25 August 2012 1:22pm
Not big on religion myself, I am an Athiest I suppos
e, so much not into it in fact that I rarely think about it for myself. They say friends should never discuss politics or religion, this thread covers both. Ev has hit the nail on the head there, it certainly matters what a leaders religious beliefs are. Look at the worlds leaders, their faiths, and what their doctrine is and how it is followed and its results. Dont knock who is currently in office in the UK or the US too much. It could be worse. Very worse.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Ken Dunn on 25 August 2012 7:26pm
Yes, Wheelrim, I tend to avoid politics and religion too except when I am considering my vote or deciding when to go to church.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Spursfan2 on 26 August 2012 9:58am
When I said it doesn't matter what a president's religious views are I was trying to highlight the fact that this man (Mitt Romney) is a cruel, vile, obnoxious man who thinks nothing of strapping his dog to the roof of his car for 12-hour trips, then, when his dog got sick/pooped Romney hosed him down and put him back on the roof of his car. THAT to me speaks volumes - I don't NEED to know what religion he happoens to follow to see what a s**t he is!!
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by johnnyBgood! on 26 August 2012 12:09pm
You're like a dog with a bone over that thing with the dog on the roof. It was over 30 years ago and no harm came to the dog.
You're letting Romney off lightly if that's all you can say about him.
Re: Can you believe that a Mormon might be the next US President? by Loretto on 26 August 2012 2:06pm
The fact that Romney placed a "simple" bet to the sum of $10,000 tells me he has about as much in common with the ordinary American citizen as a hippopotamus has in common with a flea.
Obama has not done everything that he promised, but it took Bush Junior 8 years to f*#k the whole thing up, it is going to take Obama more than one term as presdident to make things better.
And let's face it, America's largest export is weapons of war. England's too by the way. So, if the world is at peace, China leads the global market selling mass produced items. If there is a war, America and the UK take over the global market lead.
When was there ever a time in the global histroy of presidents and prime ministers in the developed nations, where there wasn't a war or conflict?
It is very sad that wars make economies boom.