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lppointer12-04-2003, 02:31 AM:mad: I just get so angry, when adults are hurting and killing are kids. They don't need a trial, they don't deserve a trial.:evil: when is it ever going to stop. When the killers have no rights, then it might stop, now they just get protected and some slimy hot shot lawyer bails them out if the fee is high enough.:confused:
nanandjim12-04-2003, 12:29 PMThese scum should be killed in the same fashion that they killed this innocent, defenseless child.
mindys12-04-2003, 08:48 PMWhen I was in third grade back in the early 70's, a classmate was murdered by her parents. My little friend's name was Donita. She was there one day, gone the next. It was the first time there was not an explanation, not a reason, no answer to "WHY"?. I will never forget her, her face is etched in my mind, I see her on the playground, walking to school. A child's classmate's are part of their 'family'. And she died in vain. Nothing has changed all these years later! It is such a hopeless feeling.
Old Broad12-05-2003, 02:16 AMI will never understand how someone can be so warped they do these evil things!!!!!!!!!! I pray this sweet child is at peace now and knows no pain!!
blueclouds12-05-2003, 11:07 AMMore info on this... people "shocked" that this couple could have done this.
Toth12-05-2003, 12:01 PMHow's the umbrella doing?
AliSleuth12-05-2003, 02:00 PMI live in the Atlanta area so I've been reading about this since they were arrested. I've been searching for one certain article but I can't find it. It seems the neighborhood children had been telling their parents that Joella had bruises on her. No one reported it. Also reported locally but not in the CNN article was that Joella's father had just gotten custody of her. Her real mother is deceased. It didn't say where she was before being put in that monster's care but it was sure better. I'll keep looking for the articles.
AliSleuth12-05-2003, 02:52 PMRodney Reaves has served in the U.S. Navy for 19 years, according to his attorney, Bruce Harvey. Harvey said Rodney Reaves had obtained legal custody of Joella this summer. http://www.news-daily.com/articles/2003/12/03/news/news1.txt
Toth12-05-2003, 03:36 PMOriginally posted by AliSleuth It didn't say where she was before being put in that monster's care but it was sure better. It often is better and only the intervention of the state or well-meaning do-gooders makes things worse. One 14 year old girl was chained (literally) in the back of a van and was being rented out for twenty dollars. When "rescued" her first words were please don't send me back to the orphanage. It seems she didn't mind the man chaining her up or keeping all the money, she felt she was eating and living better than in the orphanage.
blueclouds12-05-2003, 11:19 PMToth, I think you're getting a little out of hand here. It has been said by many experts that children will beg beg beg to stay with their mom & dad irregardless of the severity of the abuse because they believe the abuse is deserved and are desparate to be loved by their parents.
Toth12-07-2003, 06:14 AMOriginally posted by blueclouds irregardless It sounds like you believe there is no "bad" in the world, just "choices". Not at all. 'Irregardless' is bad grammar, not merely a choice. Please do not think I am not concerned about this incident. I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better. So don't think I am unconcerned. I'll admit I'm not particularly concerned about the umbrella. If this had been a natural child of the accused I would say that the kid and the parents were pretty much all the same. I don't know much about the kid's life, but I rather doubt that there were no signs that something like this was going to be happening. Is it unfortunate? Sure: look at the taxpayer's money being wasted. But cheer up, if he gets booted out of the Navy, we won't have to pay him his pension while he sits in a cell.
mindys12-07-2003, 01:03 PM"I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better."
BeeBee12-07-2003, 02:56 PMOriginally posted by mindys "I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better."
How much more hurtful CAN you be??? Toth talks this way about a lot of the cases involving kids being killed by parents. I stopped trying to figure out what he is all about long ago.
alpharee12-07-2003, 04:32 PMOriginally posted by Toth Not at all. 'Irregardless' is bad grammar, not merely a choice. Please do not think I am not concerned about this incident. I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better. So don't think I am unconcerned. I'll admit I'm not particularly concerned about the umbrella. If this had been a natural child of the accused I would say that the kid and the parents were pretty much all the same. I don't know much about the kid's life, but I rather doubt that there were no signs that something like this was going to be happening. Is it unfortunate? Sure: look at the taxpayer's money being wasted. But cheer up, if he gets booted out of the Navy, we won't have to pay him his pension while he sits in a cell. YOU ARE HEARTLESS! Do us all a favor........stop posting...........
blueclouds12-07-2003, 10:14 PMthanks bee bee for the heads up.
Toth12-08-2003, 01:06 AMOriginally posted by BeeBee Toth talks this way about a lot of the cases involving kids being killed by parents. As opposed perhaps to most posters who seem to think that if some disgusting low-life kills his own kid, that kid was somehow going to grow up to be a responsible worthwhile human being?
BeeBee12-08-2003, 05:22 AMOriginally posted by Toth As opposed perhaps to most posters who seem to think that if some disgusting low-life kills his own kid, that kid was somehow going to grow up to be a responsible worthwhile human being? You know what Toth? Unless you have some sort of ESP that you're not telling us about then you don't know what they will grow up to be!
I have no recollection of my childhood up until the time I was around 14 or 15 years old. I know my father was an abuser because I suffered at his hands at that time and if not for just pure luck, he would have killed my brother at one time. And yep, my brother grew up to be a pretty low lifed human being. However, some children decide (fighting genetics if you would want to word it that way) to try and go a different route than the parents. Or A parent. That's what I did. My children were never abused. And, I have always been a law abiding citizen. So, "regardless" of what you think, some children from disgusting low life parents can actually grow up and be a responsible worthwhile human being. I know. Because I AM one.
angelsleuth12-08-2003, 05:27 PMhttp://www.davepelzer.com/aboutb.htm
He is an example of someone coming from a family of what you call low-lifes. He grew up and wrote a Child Called It and The Lost boy...A man named Dave... You need to try reading them. I hope you do because it sounds like your library needs a little broadening.
seamless12-08-2003, 06:24 PMI just have to comment here. It is obvious that Toth is loving this! This is probably exactly the reaction he/she is looking for. He/she is obviously intelligent and is more than likely aware of the things you are saying. I say why waste your energy to entertain someone like this? Unless it is someone you care about it's not worth it!!
Elle Kaye12-08-2003, 06:49 PMOn other threads we are using the Ignore feature with great success. May I recommend it here as well?
This is a very sad story. This child did not deserve to die. Elle
angelsleuth12-09-2003, 01:31 AMOriginally posted by seamless If you can take a step back and block out the awful things that the discussion is centered around, (yes, I know they are very terrible!!) it is quite entertaining that he/she is able to control complete strangers in this way. When it comes to print, anyone can read what is written here on ws. This forum has gained a wide audience over the last year. So when I see printed things like what Toth writes, and yes I am well aware of the attention this gets him/her, I feel it is only fair to readers that there are people that don't appreciate comments like the ones we have seen come out of Toth. Most of the time it doesn't bother me, I just read on. But this was such a sad thing. I wouldn't come back to a place like ws if I thought they just stood idly by while people unfeelingly puke out mean comments. There are tons of places on the web for that. Believe me, it only takes one second for most people to detect that some of the comments coming from Toth are to be ignored. Once in a while, that old idea called respect comes creeping back and I can't stand it, I've got to say something. :dontknow:
Toth12-09-2003, 06:26 PMI have never said the child deserved to die or that if she had lived she would necessarily have turned out bad, only that it was rather likely.
I'm sure the investigation will turn up other incidents that showed what these defendants were like. Nobody just snaps and does this out of thin air.
Kat04-25-2009, 06:42 AMhttp://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/henry/stories/2009/04/26/joella_charlott_reaves.html
Stepmother faces trial for torture
A Superior Court jury will determine Charlott Reaves’ role in the 2003 torture and murder of Joella Reaves beginning Tuesday, with the start of jury selection in McDonough. If found guilty, Reaves could face the death penalty.
Her husband, Rodney Reaves, was sentenced in February to life in prison, with the possibility of parole after 14 years, after being convicted of felony murder, aggravated battery and two counts of cruelty to children for his role in his daughter’s death. He was acquitted of a felony count of malice murder, sparing him the death penalty.
LadyLuck04-25-2009, 07:20 AMtoth, I usually do not respond to post like yours and do not post that often.
I just wanted to say that I am adding you to my prayer list. I feel that you have some long deep problems and really need help.
Bobbisangel04-26-2009, 07:59 PMIt often is better and only the intervention of the state or well-meaning do-gooders makes things worse. One 14 year old girl was chained (literally) in the back of a van and was being rented out for twenty dollars. When "rescued" her first words were please don't send me back to the orphanage. It seems she didn't mind the man chaining her up or keeping all the money, she felt she was eating and living better than in the orphanage.
Maybe she didn't mean that she didn't mind being in that van being used and abused. Maybe she meant just what she said..."please don't send me back to the orphanage." Meaning...I know you are going to place me somewhere but please don't send me back there. I hope LE investigated the reason she didn't want to go back to the orphanage. I doubt very much if that little girl wanted to be where she was and it didn't have anything to do with the money. It had to do with her body, spirit, and selfworth.
Boyz_Mum04-27-2009, 11:18 AMThis story is so sad and it's even sadder that it took 6 years for it to finish in court. RIP Joella, I'm so sorry for all the pain your endured on earth. :rose:
I can't comment on the outcome of Rodney's trial, it's disappointing to say the least. May justice be served at the conclusion of Charlott's trial.
Kat05-04-2009, 01:25 PMhttp://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/henry/stories/2009/05/04/reaves_henry_judge.html
...In closing statements in the murder case against Charlott Reaves, her lawyer laid all the blame for the girl’s death on Rodney Reaves, who was convicted of her murder in February and is now serving life in prison...
...But the 43-year-old woman agreed to a bench trial, letting Henry County Judge Wade Crumbley decide her guilt and punishment if she is convicted. In return, the prosecutor will ask the judge not to consider capital punishment...
...A medical examiner testified the autopsy showed more than 100 injuries on Joella Reaves’ body and that her trapezius muscle had been ripped off her shoulder blade...
Boyz_Mum05-04-2009, 04:48 PMWhy do either of these monsters have a chance at parole? :furious:
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lppointer12-04-2003, 02:31 AM:mad: I just get so angry, when adults are hurting and killing are kids. They don't need a trial, they don't deserve a trial.:evil: when is it ever going to stop. When the killers have no rights, then it might stop, now they just get protected and some slimy hot shot lawyer bails them out if the fee is high enough.:confused:
nanandjim12-04-2003, 12:29 PMThese scum should be killed in the same fashion that they killed this innocent, defenseless child.
mindys12-04-2003, 08:48 PMWhen I was in third grade back in the early 70's, a classmate was murdered by her parents. My little friend's name was Donita. She was there one day, gone the next. It was the first time there was not an explanation, not a reason, no answer to "WHY"?. I will never forget her, her face is etched in my mind, I see her on the playground, walking to school. A child's classmate's are part of their 'family'. And she died in vain. Nothing has changed all these years later! It is such a hopeless feeling.
Old Broad12-05-2003, 02:16 AMI will never understand how someone can be so warped they do these evil things!!!!!!!!!! I pray this sweet child is at peace now and knows no pain!!
blueclouds12-05-2003, 11:07 AMMore info on this... people "shocked" that this couple could have done this.
Toth12-05-2003, 12:01 PMHow's the umbrella doing?
AliSleuth12-05-2003, 02:00 PMI live in the Atlanta area so I've been reading about this since they were arrested. I've been searching for one certain article but I can't find it. It seems the neighborhood children had been telling their parents that Joella had bruises on her. No one reported it. Also reported locally but not in the CNN article was that Joella's father had just gotten custody of her. Her real mother is deceased. It didn't say where she was before being put in that monster's care but it was sure better. I'll keep looking for the articles.
AliSleuth12-05-2003, 02:52 PMRodney Reaves has served in the U.S. Navy for 19 years, according to his attorney, Bruce Harvey. Harvey said Rodney Reaves had obtained legal custody of Joella this summer. http://www.news-daily.com/articles/2003/12/03/news/news1.txt
Toth12-05-2003, 03:36 PMOriginally posted by AliSleuth It didn't say where she was before being put in that monster's care but it was sure better. It often is better and only the intervention of the state or well-meaning do-gooders makes things worse. One 14 year old girl was chained (literally) in the back of a van and was being rented out for twenty dollars. When "rescued" her first words were please don't send me back to the orphanage. It seems she didn't mind the man chaining her up or keeping all the money, she felt she was eating and living better than in the orphanage.
blueclouds12-05-2003, 11:19 PMToth, I think you're getting a little out of hand here. It has been said by many experts that children will beg beg beg to stay with their mom & dad irregardless of the severity of the abuse because they believe the abuse is deserved and are desparate to be loved by their parents.
Toth12-07-2003, 06:14 AMOriginally posted by blueclouds irregardless It sounds like you believe there is no "bad" in the world, just "choices". Not at all. 'Irregardless' is bad grammar, not merely a choice. Please do not think I am not concerned about this incident. I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better. So don't think I am unconcerned. I'll admit I'm not particularly concerned about the umbrella. If this had been a natural child of the accused I would say that the kid and the parents were pretty much all the same. I don't know much about the kid's life, but I rather doubt that there were no signs that something like this was going to be happening. Is it unfortunate? Sure: look at the taxpayer's money being wasted. But cheer up, if he gets booted out of the Navy, we won't have to pay him his pension while he sits in a cell.
mindys12-07-2003, 01:03 PM"I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better."
BeeBee12-07-2003, 02:56 PMOriginally posted by mindys "I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better."
How much more hurtful CAN you be??? Toth talks this way about a lot of the cases involving kids being killed by parents. I stopped trying to figure out what he is all about long ago.
alpharee12-07-2003, 04:32 PMOriginally posted by Toth Not at all. 'Irregardless' is bad grammar, not merely a choice. Please do not think I am not concerned about this incident. I've shown my concern by asking how damaged the umbrella is and whether the umbrella is getting better. So don't think I am unconcerned. I'll admit I'm not particularly concerned about the umbrella. If this had been a natural child of the accused I would say that the kid and the parents were pretty much all the same. I don't know much about the kid's life, but I rather doubt that there were no signs that something like this was going to be happening. Is it unfortunate? Sure: look at the taxpayer's money being wasted. But cheer up, if he gets booted out of the Navy, we won't have to pay him his pension while he sits in a cell. YOU ARE HEARTLESS! Do us all a favor........stop posting...........
blueclouds12-07-2003, 10:14 PMthanks bee bee for the heads up.
Toth12-08-2003, 01:06 AMOriginally posted by BeeBee Toth talks this way about a lot of the cases involving kids being killed by parents. As opposed perhaps to most posters who seem to think that if some disgusting low-life kills his own kid, that kid was somehow going to grow up to be a responsible worthwhile human being?
BeeBee12-08-2003, 05:22 AMOriginally posted by Toth As opposed perhaps to most posters who seem to think that if some disgusting low-life kills his own kid, that kid was somehow going to grow up to be a responsible worthwhile human being? You know what Toth? Unless you have some sort of ESP
 that you're not telling us about then you don't know what they will grow up to be!
I have no recollection of my childhood up until the time I was around 14 or 15 years old. I know my father was an abuser because I suffered at his hands at that time and if not for just pure luck, he would have killed my brother at one time. And yep, my brother grew up to be a pretty low lifed human being. However, some children decide (fighting genetics if you would want to word it that way) to try and go a different route than the parents. Or A parent. That's what I did. My children were never abused. And, I have always been a law abiding citizen. So, "regardless" of what you think, some children from disgusting low life parents can actually grow up and be a responsible worthwhile human being. I know. Because I AM one.
angelsleuth12-08-2003, 05:27 PMhttp://www.davepelzer.com/aboutb.htm
He is an example of someone coming from a family of what you call low-lifes. He grew up and wrote a Child Called It and The Lost boy...A man named Dave... You need to try reading them. I hope you do because it sounds like your library needs a little broadening.
seamless12-08-2003, 06:24 PMI just have to comment here. It is obvious that Toth is loving this! This is probably exactly the reaction he/she is looking for. He/she is obviously intelligent and is more than likely aware of the things you are saying. I say why waste your energy to entertain someone like this? Unless it is someone you care about it's not worth it!!
Elle Kaye12-08-2003, 06:49 PMOn other threads we are using the Ignore feature with great success. May I recommend it here as well?
This is a very sad story. This child did not deserve to die. Elle
angelsleuth12-09-2003, 01:31 AMOriginally posted by seamless If you can take a step back and block out the awful things that the discussion is centered around, (yes, I know they are very terrible!!) it is quite entertaining that he/she is able to control complete strangers in this way. When it comes to print, anyone can read what is written here on ws. This forum has gained a wide audience over the last year. So when I see printed things like what Toth writes, and yes I am well aware of the attention this gets him/her, I feel it is only fair to readers that there are people that don't appreciate comments like the ones we have seen come out of Toth. Most of the time it doesn't bother me, I just read on. But this was such a sad thing. I wouldn't come back to a place like ws if I thought they just stood idly by while people unfeelingly puke out mean comments. There are tons of places on the web for that. Believe me, it only takes one second for most people to detect that some of the comments coming from Toth are to be ignored. Once in a while, that old idea called respect comes creeping back and I can't stand it, I've got to say something. :dontknow:
Toth12-09-2003, 06:26 PMI have never said the child deserved to die or that if she had lived she would necessarily have turned out bad, only that it was rather likely.
I'm sure the investigation will turn up other incidents that showed what these defendants were like. Nobody just snaps and does this out of thin air.
Kat04-25-2009, 06:42 AMhttp://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/henry/stories/2009/04/26/joella_charlott_reaves.html
Stepmother faces trial for torture
A Superior Court jury will determine Charlott Reaves’ role in the 2003 torture and murder of Joella Reaves beginning Tuesday, with the start of jury selection in McDonough. If found guilty, Reaves could face the death penalty.
Her husband, Rodney Reaves, was sentenced in February to life in prison, with the possibility of parole after 14 years, after being convicted of felony murder, aggravated battery and two counts of cruelty to children for his role in his daughter’s death. He was acquitted of a felony count of malice murder, sparing him the death penalty.
LadyLuck04-25-2009, 07:20 AMtoth, I usually do not respond to post like yours and do not post that often.
I just wanted to say that I am adding you to my prayer list. I feel that you have some long deep problems and really need help.
Bobbisangel04-26-2009, 07:59 PMIt often is better and only the intervention of the state or well-meaning do-gooders makes things worse. One 14 year old girl was chained (literally) in the back of a van and was being rented out for twenty dollars. When "rescued" her first words were please don't send me back to the orphanage. It seems she didn't mind the man chaining her up or keeping all the money, she felt she was eating and living better than in the orphanage.
Maybe she didn't mean that she didn't mind being in that van being used and abused. Maybe she meant just what she said..."please don't send me back to the orphanage." Meaning...I know you are going to place me somewhere but please don't send me back there. I hope LE investigated the reason she didn't want to go back to the orphanage. I doubt very much if that little girl wanted to be where she was and it didn't have anything to do with the money. It had to do with her body, spirit, and selfworth.
Boyz_Mum04-27-2009, 11:18 AMThis story is so sad and it's even sadder that it took 6 years for it to finish in court. RIP Joella, I'm so sorry for all the pain your endured on earth. :rose:
I can't comment on the outcome of Rodney's trial, it's disappointing to say the least. May justice be served at the conclusion of Charlott's trial.
Kat05-04-2009, 01:25 PMhttp://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/henry/stories/2009/05/04/reaves_henry_judge.html
...In closing statements in the murder case against Charlott Reaves, her lawyer laid all the blame for the girl’s death on Rodney Reaves, who was convicted of her murder in February and is now serving life in prison...
...But the 43-year-old woman agreed to a bench trial, letting Henry County Judge Wade Crumbley decide her guilt and punishment if she is convicted. In return, the prosecutor will ask the judge not to consider capital punishment...
...A medical examiner testified the autopsy showed more than 100 injuries on Joella Reaves’ body and that her trapezius muscle had been ripped off her shoulder blade...
Boyz_Mum05-04-2009, 04:48 PMWhy do either of these monsters have a chance at parole? :furious: