Another Arsenal Blog: Never trust a fat, sweaty Uzbeki bearing gifts……?
No i dont want our Arsenal to be taken over by some stupid russians or uzbeki guys !! So wat if the have more shares....we shouldnt let them to overtake us .U never know wat they can do ?? What if they fire AW in the future just like other managers if we r not doing to well .What if they make our club like Man City.....full of money , but still noone wants to play for them . I like my arsenal as a self supporting club . I can bear the fact that arsenal can be in debt or whatever ...but i cant bear the fact that it gets taken over by some east european or a asian guy .
18 February 2009 at 10:08
At what point would it become tolerable or even necessary though? I totally agree, I do not want to see Arsenal run like Chelsea or City. But does Lerner not do a good job at Villa (they have spent shedloads, but sensibly, and have supported O'Neill), or the Glazers at Utd. Yes there are ideological downsides, but the bar has been raised for what it costs to run a winning football club, and there is a risk we may be placing too high a price on the intangibles of what makes this club great. Really, what makes a club great is nice shiny trophies.
I think there has to be an element of big-c Conservativism with Uzmanov - do we only oppose change becuase we fear it?Whilst I may not like some of the stuff I read in the papers about Uzmanov, what exactly do we have to fear from him that is not already present from David Dein, Stan Kroenke or Danny Fitzman.Dein, in particular, is of extremely dubious morals - the stitch-up contract for Henry's last season, in which Dein negotiated for Arsenal and Dein's son negotiated for Henry, was a disgrace and everyone lined their own pockets.Whilst I have nothing bad to say about Kroenke and Fitzman, I also am not entirely clear why they are perceived as the good guys in all this.Surely if the lack of spending in recent years is a bad thing (and you all know I remain to be convinced on that) then it is entirely hypocritical for people to then rally around the current board and oppose someone else coming in who is clearly loaded with cash.
That's pretty much what I was getting at really.We can't moan that we don't spend money, and then refuse to accept the money that is basically on offer.I think if we want to challenge Utd again in the SHORT TERM (as who knows what will happen in anything more than 3 seasons) we will need to have regular investment. Which will mean selling off those who don't make it, and spending £15-20m on players who will add to the squad.
18 February 2009 at 12:06
We shouldn't go near him. He's an amoral scumbag who spends his life suing anyone who threatens to reveal his dodgy dealings.I for one DO care where the money comes from. I'd rather not win anything than give my hard earned money to a bunch of criminals thanks.
18 February 2009 at 21:57
I'm glad to hear it to be honest. The post was a bit of an attempt to see what I do actually want for the club.Certainly trophies matter, and bragging rights are part of being a fan. But at the same time, I never want to behave like Chelsea fans have been for the last few years - booing their team, booing their manager, and not realsising for one second how lucky they are and how far they have come.And this applies to us Gooners. In our first season in the Premiership we came 10th. We did win a cup double, but we were 10th and playing some terrible football. We now may finish 5th and although not great, in the context of the recent history we are lucy to have the team we have.Money can buy you titles, but it cannot buy you the genuine love of your fans.
19 February 2009 at 08:38
@ ObsinhoVery well said.....i totally agree with u .and the best example is Man city...Huge money but average team , average fan following ...and finally no big player is willing to join them. Whats the use of money then ??U have to have passion for your team , players , managers , grounds etc !!{ I went to London as a kid...and i didnt knew what arsenal was...so never visited Highbury...but if i have the chance to visit London again...i wll make sure that i go to Emirates...and i m sure it wll be the most memorable days of my life :)Arsenal makes me so happy !! }
19 February 2009 at 09:06
is it because he's fat?would we feel better if he played tennis and exercised?the important thing is that Arsenal does not need an angel investor. not to say it wouldn't be nice.Arsenal is doing it the right way. I also think the Abramovich saga, and the fact that Man City stinks and that Liverpool can't pay bills is a nice warning to all the rich fat cats out there.-rahul-
I agree Rahul - the warning signs are more numerous than the successes. But we are in an odd position, where so many fans are clammering for us to spend money but don't seem to want the sugar-daddy we'd need for that to happen.But there are those who are crying for David Dein to come back with Usmanov and start a Harlem globe-trotters team at the EMirates.It takes all sorts.And it's not just cos he's fat. It's because he is so obese the fat on his forearms balloons over his wrists like a badly tailored shirt made of man fat. Never trust a man who hids his wrists under fat.
19 February 2009 at 15:41
I think you should apologise for your racist stance against fat, sweaty Uzbecki men. Some are just fat. Others are just sweaty. A tiny number have vast wealth that they plundered from the post Yeltsin sell-off off the USSR's natural resources. I am also told that not all of their women are ugly and hairy.Shame on you Obsinho. Shame.
19 February 2009 at 15:52
Another Arsenal Blog: Never trust a fat, sweaty Uzbeki bearing gifts……?
No i dont want our Arsenal to be taken over by some stupid russians or uzbeki guys !! So wat if the have more shares....we shouldnt let them to overtake us .U never know wat they can do ?? What if they fire AW in the future just like other managers if we r not doing to well .What if they make our club like Man City.....full of money , but still noone wants to play for them . I like my arsenal as a self supporting club . I can bear the fact that arsenal can be in debt or whatever ...but i cant bear the fact that it gets taken over by some east european or a asian guy .
18 February 2009 at 10:08
At what point would it become tolerable or even necessary though? I totally agree, I do not want to see Arsenal run like Chelsea or City. But does Lerner not do a good job at Villa (they have spent shedloads, but sensibly, and have supported O'Neill), or the Glazers at Utd. Yes there are ideological downsides, but the bar has been raised for what it costs to run a winning football club, and there is a risk we may be placing too high a price on the intangibles of what makes this club great. Really, what makes a club great is nice shiny trophies.
I think there has to be an element of big-c Conservativism with Uzmanov - do we only oppose change becuase we fear it?Whilst I may not like some of the stuff I read in the papers about Uzmanov, what exactly do we have to fear from him that is not already present from David Dein, Stan Kroenke or Danny Fitzman.Dein, in particular, is of extremely dubious morals - the stitch-up contract for Henry's last season, in which Dein negotiated for Arsenal and Dein's son negotiated for Henry, was a disgrace and everyone lined their own pockets.Whilst I have nothing bad to say about Kroenke and Fitzman, I also am not entirely clear why they are perceived as the good guys in all this.Surely if the lack of spending in recent years is a bad thing (and you all know I remain to be convinced on that) then it is entirely hypocritical for people to then rally around the current board and oppose someone else coming in who is clearly loaded with cash.
That's pretty much what I was getting at really.We can't moan that we don't spend money, and then refuse to accept the money that is basically on offer.I think if we want to challenge Utd again in the SHORT TERM (as who knows what will happen in anything more than 3 seasons) we will need to have regular investment. Which will mean selling off those who don't make it, and spending £15-20m on players who will add to the squad.
18 February 2009 at 12:06
We shouldn't go near him. He's an amoral scumbag who spends his life suing anyone who threatens to reveal his dodgy dealings.I for one DO care where the money comes from. I'd rather not win anything
 than give my hard earned money to a bunch of criminals thanks.
18 February 2009 at 21:57
I'm glad to hear it to be honest. The post was a bit of an attempt to see what I do actually want for the club.Certainly trophies matter, and bragging rights are part of being a fan. But at the same time, I never want to behave like Chelsea fans have been for the last few years - booing their team, booing their manager, and not realsising for one second how lucky they are and how far they have come.And this applies to us Gooners. In our first season in the Premiership we came 10th. We did win a cup double, but we were 10th and playing some terrible football. We now may finish 5th and although not great, in the context of the recent history we are lucy to have the team we have.Money can buy you titles, but it cannot buy you the genuine love of your fans.
19 February 2009 at 08:38
@ ObsinhoVery well said.....i totally agree with u .and the best example is Man city...Huge money but average team , average fan following ...and finally no big player is willing to join them. Whats the use of money then ??U have to have passion for your team , players , managers , grounds etc !!{ I went to London as a kid...and i didnt knew what arsenal was...so never visited Highbury...but if i have the chance to visit London again...i wll make sure that i go to Emirates...and i m sure it wll be the most memorable days of my life :)Arsenal makes me so happy !! }
19 February 2009 at 09:06
is it because he's fat?would we feel better if he played tennis and exercised?the important thing is that Arsenal does not need an angel investor. not to say it wouldn't be nice.Arsenal is doing it the right way. I also think the Abramovich saga, and the fact that Man City stinks and that Liverpool can't pay bills is a nice warning to all the rich fat cats out there.-rahul-
I agree Rahul - the warning signs are more numerous than the successes. But we are in an odd position, where so many fans are clammering for us to spend money but don't seem to want the sugar-daddy we'd need for that to happen.But there are those who are crying for David Dein to come back with Usmanov and start a Harlem globe-trotters team at the EMirates.It takes all sorts.And it's not just cos he's fat. It's because he is so obese the fat on his forearms balloons over his wrists like a badly tailored shirt made of man fat. Never trust a man who hids his wrists under fat.
19 February 2009 at 15:41
I think you should apologise for your racist stance against fat, sweaty Uzbecki men. Some are just fat. Others are just sweaty. A tiny number have vast wealth that they plundered from the post Yeltsin sell-off off the USSR's natural resources. I am also told that not all of their women are ugly and hairy.Shame on you Obsinho. Shame.
19 February 2009 at 15:52