Re: Are you embarrassed every time you use your cr... - Page 7 - myFICO® Forums - 3048704
‎07-04-2014 07:10 PM
+1 on the Capital One card, not that the clerk/cashier/server would really care!
Although what's embarrasing for me to think about NOW were some of my pathetic habits back when I had screwed my excellent credit to the point where I had nothing left but DEBIT cards in my wallet. After Charter One changed their card appearance to green details on a white background, I took pains to save my older (but now expired) GOLD colored debit cards (with Mastercard logo!) and keep them in my wallet, to foster the "illusion" to anyone who might look into my wallet as I opened it to make a purchase that I was a "well-heeled gent" with a wallet full of gold (but now totally useless) cards! (I DID use the word "pathetic" earlier, didn't I?)
Speaking of Charter One, what's going on with them?
Here in Chicago, most if not all of the Charter One branches have been turned into US Bank branches.
Although I no longer bank with Charter One, they're still going by that name here in Ohio, even after the 2004 buyout by the Royal Bankof Scotland.
carlosg wrote:
i you boss reads this you should be fired on the spot, there is nothing wrong to pay with debit cards many people have 10x more money on it that all your fancy credit cards combined, and non prime cards well we all have being there trying to rebuild or getting credit for the firs time, i have seen people with a centurion in their wallet paying with debit
Sorry, but no. Our GM has told us that anyone at the front desk has the right to refuse service to anyone who you believe would damage or steal from the hotel. Now, am I saying that everyone who only pays by cash/debit card should be or is turned down? Absolutely not (I'd turn down my own mother!). But for me, knowing what I know about credit cards, it is an indicator of an ability to pay. If you say you do not have a credit card, but you want a room and you reek of smoke - I assume you will smoke in our room and we would be unable to collect the $250 penalty - and I would most likely say no. If you had a Centurion in your hand, I would probably say yes. I apologize if some people believe this is too harsh or that stereotyping is wrong (it is, by the way, but sometimes it is better to be safe than listen to your boss tell you we lost 3 nights revenue because the room was destroyed and they took our linen), I apologize, but you'll find more and more hotels adapting to this policy. Our management company now absolutely refuses (it results in a write-up!) to rent a room to someone cash-only, without a valid credit card that is approved for the minimum incidental preauthorization ($50).
I would have to shop with our company. What exactly entails ''I don't belive you can't pay'' or "I think you're going to steal"?
And the Centurion member should be denied too, as they are not obeying rules.
Usually young people wanting to pay cash or asking how much the authorization will be because they only have x amount on their debit. When I hear the is say we dont accept debit (like some car rentals dont) After working for a while you start to get the vibes from people and most of them are ok, business people coming to sleep and thats it, or family traveling needing to rest and be on their way. Some people you just get a crazy feeling like loud drunk guys coming from the club all trying to gather cash for a room. Uh no. Or crazy crack head looking lady that smells like smoke and gives me some weird looking credit card. I do not want to get fired for renting to someone who destroys the room and we cannot collect from them because their card gets declined for additional charges. And management does not want these kind of guests neither so sometimes I have to make a judgement call when I ge walk ins like that. Or I get nervous and worried if they already made an online reservation and come and pay with with a weird credit card and pray that you will not cause any trouble. And this is only like 1 out of 100+ guests btw not every guest.
‎07-09-2014 08:24 AM
While I agree that s/he should be denied too, if both say they won't smoke in the room - at least one of them I know has the ability to repay for additional charges. As for what entails someone believing you cannot pay or are going to take something not belonging to you has a lot to do with the way you present yourself. As I said, stereotypes are more often than not wrong, but they do exist for a reason and it is often the only thing the cashier/hotel clerk/server has to predict your behavior.
This certainly does not exclusively happen in hotels - it happens in higher end restuarants and stores as well.
In my opinion, the hotel has every right to deny anyone they deem unfit for business, be it the way they act, the type of card they hold, or other factors that put them in high alert. It's a business, so there is nothing wrong with using stereotypes to help you filter your business. That's why rental car companies do credit checks and ask for proof of insurance if you're under 25 or some other threshold age.
Re: Are you embarrassed every time you use your cr... - Page 7 - myFICO® Forums - 3048704
‎07-04-2014 07:10 PM
+1 on the Capital One card, not that the clerk/cashier/server would really care!
Although what's embarrasing for me to think about NOW were some of my pathetic habits back when I had screwed my excellent credit to the point where I had nothing left but DEBIT cards in my wallet. After Charter One changed their card appearance to green details on a white background, I took pains to save my older (but now expired) GOLD colored debit cards (with Mastercard logo!) and keep them in my wallet, to foster the "illusion" to anyone who might look into my wallet as I opened it to make a purchase that I was a "well-heeled gent" with a wallet full of gold (but now totally useless) cards! (I DID use the word "pathetic" earlier, didn't I?)
Speaking of Charter One, what's going on with them?
Here in Chicago, most if not all of the Charter One branches have been turned into US Bank branches.
Although I no longer bank with Charter One, they're still going by that name here in Ohio, even after the 2004 buyout by the Royal Bankof Scotland.
carlosg wrote:
i you boss reads this you should be fired on the spot, there is nothing wrong to pay with debit cards many people have 10x more money on it that all your fancy credit cards combined, and non prime cards well we all have being there trying to rebuild or getting credit for the firs time, i have seen people with a centurion in their wallet paying with debit
Sorry, but no. Our GM has told us that anyone at the front desk has the right to refuse service to anyone who you believe would damage or steal from the hotel. Now, am I saying that everyone who only pays by cash/debit card should be or is turned down? Absolutely not (I'd turn down my own mother!). But for me, knowing what I know about credit cards, it is an indicator of an ability to pay. If you say you do not have a credit card, but you want a room and you reek of smoke - I assume you will smoke in our room and we would be unable to collect the $250 penalty - and I would most likely say no. If you had a Centurion in your hand, I would probably say yes. I apologize if some people believe this is too harsh or that stereotyping is wrong (it is, by the way, but sometimes it is better to be safe than listen to your boss tell you we lost 3 nights revenue because the room was destroyed and they took our linen), I apologize, but you'll find more and more hotels adapting to this policy. Our management company now absolutely refuses (i
t results in a write-up!) to rent a room to someone cash-only, without a valid credit card that is approved for the minimum incidental preauthorization ($50).
I would have to shop with our company. What exactly entails ''I don't belive you can't pay'' or "I think you're going to steal"?
And the Centurion member should be denied too, as they are not obeying rules.
Usually young people wanting to pay cash or asking how much the authorization will be because they only have x amount on their debit. When I hear the is say we dont accept debit (like some car rentals dont) After working for a while you start to get the vibes from people and most of them are ok, business people coming to sleep and thats it, or family traveling needing to rest and be on their way. Some people you just get a crazy feeling like loud drunk guys coming from the club all trying to gather cash for a room. Uh no. Or crazy crack head looking lady that smells like smoke and gives me some weird looking credit card. I do not want to get fired for renting to someone who destroys the room and we cannot collect from them because their card gets declined for additional charges. And management does not want these kind of guests neither so sometimes I have to make a judgement call when I ge walk ins like that. Or I get nervous and worried if they already made an online reservation and come and pay with with a weird credit card and pray that you will not cause any trouble. And this is only like 1 out of 100+ guests btw not every guest.
‎07-09-2014 08:24 AM
While I agree that s/he should be denied too, if both say they won't smoke in the room - at least one of them I know has the ability to repay for additional charges. As for what entails someone believing you cannot pay or are going to take something not belonging to you has a lot to do with the way you present yourself. As I said, stereotypes are more often than not wrong, but they do exist for a reason and it is often the only thing the cashier/hotel clerk/server has to predict your behavior.
This certainly does not exclusively happen in hotels - it happens in higher end restuarants and stores as well.
In my opinion, the hotel has every right to deny anyone they deem unfit for business, be it the way they act, the type of card they hold, or other factors that put them in high alert. It's a business, so there is nothing wrong with using stereotypes to help you filter your business. That's why rental car companies do credit checks and ask for proof of insurance if you're under 25 or some other threshold age.