Remember the facts that face us as voters in this election. Number 1 , the national debt is triple what it was when a no name Obama took office 4 years ago. Make all the excuses you want but that is not the past presidents fault unless bush has a ghost in the white house. Let's all get out and vote for the real financial wizard that will get this country back to the glory days.Vote Romney Tuesday ! The rest of you excommunicated Mormons take your whining to some other religious website !
November 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Frank
Oh get real. Rmoney ain't no financial wizard. He's the worst sort of vulture capitalist and all he would do is enrich his own type.
November 4, 2012 at 1:12 am | Daniella
We each have our own faith and relationship with God. Only God will judge us in the end. I am not making my decision on someone's religion. Unless you haven't noticed our country is in an economic crisis. There are suttle improvements in different areas of the country but the country as a whole is at a standstill. If you haven't looked at the fiscal cliff details I recommend you do so. Remember the successful states are doing well due to a bailout that has left us all wondering how we will ever payoff the national debt of 6+ trillion dollars. We're all are going to have to pay it back mormon or not.
November 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Ellen
Daniella, how dare you presume to speak for all of us. You presumptuous beotch.
November 3, 2012 at 5:39 pm | sjlewis
November 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm | pygalgics
I thank God that our Presidents don't really believe all the religious nonsense they espouse.
November 3, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Mutt Romney
November 3, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Ellen
We are not a cult. Yeah we're different, deal with it. Don't hate us because you ain't us.
November 3, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Helen
Ellen, we don't hate you, but we do think you must be pretty gullible and stupid to fall for that Kolob stuff and the rest of J Smith's fabrications, and given that Romney claims to have fallen for them too, no thanks. I won't vote for him.
November 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | kappello
It made him a grown up, a man not a wah wah cry baby, blame everyone else like the current guy we have in now. It made him the kind of man that five years ago called for stiff sanctions on Iran, who saw the dangers, who postponed campaigning to bring relief to victims of a tragedy, the kind of person we ought to have in the WH.
November 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Ellen
If a "man" needs fairy tales like Mormonism to make major decisions, no thanks. Have a nice trip to Kolob and hope your Magic Undies stay clean though.
November 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Barbara
Most people feel this "religion" is a cult.
I did some research and WOW!! the things they teach.
They think if you are a good Mormon you are God. Like giving the church million$ Romney acts like he's God. I don't go by what a person says- sociopaths know all the right things to say – they just don't feel it. Actions speak louder than words!!
November 3, 2012 at 1:10 pm | steacher
Oh and that Kolob thing, shhhh. We try to keep that quiet.
November 4, 2012 at 1:16 am | steacher
Very sad how misinformed you are. You do need to check your facts. You have been grossly misinformed regarding Mormonism. The church's name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because they are followers and believers of Jesus Christ. Mitt Romney like other true believers of that faith try to live the principles and teachings of Jesus Christ.
November 4, 2012 at 1:07 am | Ellen
Mormons don't do or believe any of that. And let's look at this word "cult", you say most people (isn't that an extreme and ignorant generalization?) believe us to be a cult. The definition is: cult/kəlt/
1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. *ummm as Christianity, Islam, Judaism (shall I go on?)?*
1. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister *because 13 million people is such a small group*
Just let us be, we are trying to freaking love everyone but you all make it SO HARD.
November 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Denise
A Mormon Lady, you may be willing to accept your second-class role in your cult, with its ceiling on what women can be, but I and others do not. It is the bravery that had roots in the suffrage movements more than 200 years ago that has brought us forward to some semblance of equal rights today, and yet there is still a long way to go. No way will I support Romney in his and his cult's efforts to claw away women's rights that have been gained over centuries of struggle and suffering.
November 3, 2012 at 10:44 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it around Kolob these days that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 3, 2012 at 10:34 am | Frank
steacher, looks like you copy and pasted to the wrong post this time. Better improve your hit rate or you won't be getting your check from the Rmoney campaign.
November 4, 2012 at 1:14 am | steacher
you are highly misinformed and totally unfamiliar with the teachings and beliefs of Mormonism. No woman in the faith catches on to a man's coattails, but rather walks as a partner in life. check your facts before spouting hate.
November 4, 2012 at 1:10 am | petmd
The right wing comments always me of the movie "Elmer Gantry"
November 3, 2012 at 7:39 am | Ron
I just hope all voters remember this tuesday that we are voting for the person that we truly believe can get this country back on track. We are certainly not voting for any specific religion. Religious bigotry has no place in this electon ! The most important question to ask yourself Tuesday before you vote is this " am I better off today than I was 4 years ago ? " I am pretty sure I know the answer to that question from most Americans !
November 3, 2012 at 12:01 am | Jen
Ron, problem is, most Americans could not give you a reasoned, accurate assessment of their own well being, whether from financial, health, or other metrics. Historically, most people also think they are worse off than previous generations, when mostly that isn't the case. Furthermore, many of the problems in the economy now are the result of previous administrations, not the present one.
That aside, Romney's policies will lead to greater inequalities between rich and poor, by design, and also to a major step backward in women's rights. Those are good reasons not to vote for Romney.
November 3, 2012 at 10:31 am | End Religion
Mormons disavowed polygamy to gain statehood. So, they ignored what they felt was "religious law" for secular law in order to gain power. The end game for any religion is to gain the power to become a theocracy, so they can revert to religious law.
November 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm | dzmanderson
I can't ever be a Mormon first and foremost above any other reasons is Mormon doctrine. second is because I'm a person of color and I don't hate myself. Any person of color who are Mormon has some level of self hate going on. Any religion teaches that you are the way you are because you are cursed is vile. Any religion that teaches that if you are a faithful follower your reward in the after life is to be transformed in to a Anglo Saxon, Causation Angel is just wrong. If you being a person of color and believe this rubbish and strive for this reward is plain sad.”
November 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Abinadi
November 2, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it around Kolob now that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 3, 2012 at 10:33 am | Rummy Pirate Times-Dispatch
November 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Mitt Romney
A woman's place is in the home, man is the master !
November 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm | steacher
Don't know where you get your facts, but maybe that is how you run your life. Woman are not considered to be subject to any Master except our Savior Jesus Christ.
November 4, 2012 at 1:16 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Don't tell them the truth like that Mittie or we'll never take over and get our pre-Venus comfort station. Not that truth is your style anyway, but shape up or you'll have some serious Magic Underwear laundering to do come Wednesday. Know what I mean...
November 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Denise
A vote for Romney is guaranteed to be a vote that will hurt women's rights. Mormons treat women like chattel.
November 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it now that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 2, 2012 at 11:17 am | donner
Because nothing says women's rights like a religion based on polygamy.
November 2, 2012 at 11:03 am | Denise
Indeed, the Mormon church has a particularly poor track record in regard to rights and equitable treatment of women. A vote for Romney is unlikely to be positive for women's rights.
November 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Rummy Pirate Times-Dispatch
And a poor track record for the rights of anyone who was not the straight-laced white male. Of course Mormons have conveniently changed their outward stance on various issues – always when it has become politically necessary.
November 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm | recovering Republician
A vote for Romney is a vote for Corporatism and ultra, ultra conservatives views on women. It's hard for me to believe how so many women will vote for this guy. Women's rights in the Morman philisophy don't exist. A women is to have children, clean the house, make the dinner and provide for the man. Women are elibible to be married at 14 and usually are arranged. The Only help a morman wife has is the assistance from the man's other wifes. See wikipedia on Romney to really get an insight. People are drawn to romney as he is a good talker, much of it, talk only they are desperate and without facts.
November 2, 2012 at 10:22 am | Denise
November 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Mormon boy
I am a Mormon male, and yes, you may think that I know nothing of the problems of women, but I can guarantee that I know more about women in the church than you do. First off, polygamy was denounced by the church in the late 1890s, and any polygamists around today are not affiliated with the church at all. Most women that I know through the church have jobs, and if they don't it is only because they have a child under 2 or 3 years old. Sure, women are allowed to be married at 14, but so is every other young girl in the country with parents permission. I have never heard of a Mormon girl getting married younger than 18, which is perfectly fine, as when I look around I see non-Mormon 17 year olds getting married, and even getting pregnant. In summary, most of what you said was based off of facts from the 1800s.
November 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Denise
Mormon boy, your indoctrination into your cult of se.xism shows very plainly in the words that you've used. First, kindly get with the times or at least 50 years ago, and stop refering to young adult women as "girls". Second, the fact that polygamy was ever santioned by your church, and then that your church changed its stance, are both glaring faults with your religion. In the second case, it shows that your god got it wrong the first time, and that your doctrine is neither perfect nor unchanging.
Here's hoping your money-grubbing member of your se.xist cult that is so degrading to women loses the election. Keep your Mittens off RMoney.
November 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm | A Mormon Lady
I am a Mormon female and was baptized more than 30 years ago. I have never been treated as second class since I became a Mormon. The men, usually the priesthood holders never at any occasion look down at us. In fact, they treasure our opinions and service. Can you imagine a church without any female members? Some women in and out of the church often criticize the church that they are not given the opportunity to be Bishop or any higher priesthood callings. I often ask myself this question too. I was called to lead women in a women's only organization within the church. I would never want to be the Bishop. In fact, if the church allows women to be in this position, I would gladly reject it. Just imagine having to listen to all the problems of more than 100 people and being a woman, having to keep my mouth shut since I am not allowed to talk to other members about other member's problems. Do you know how difficult it is for a woman to do? There are of course other reasons, such as having to spend at least more than 8 hours on Sunday attending meetings and meeting the needs of the congregation, etc. why I would reject this calling. Yes, I am proud to be a Mormon female. We also have to take into consideration that men or should I say women too are not perfect. We learn from our mistakes and grow to be a better person.
November 3, 2012 at 9:36 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Mormon boy, love your cross-dressing job. Good one. You didn't fool us in Kolob in that dress but maybe as A Mormon Lady you can catch Mitt's coattails and sneak into a cushy life in the White House as his wife #7...
November 3, 2012 at 10:38 am | Denise
A Mormon Lady, you yourself may be willing to accept your second-class role in your cult, with its ceiling on what women can be, but I and others do not. It is the bravery that had roots in the suffrage movements more than 200 years ago that has brought us forward to some semblance of equal rights today, and yet there is still a long way to go. No way will I support Romney in his and his cult's efforts to claw away women's rights that have been gained over centuries of struggle and suffering.
November 3, 2012 at 10:45 am | « Previous
Remember the facts that face us as voters in this election. Number 1 , the national debt is triple what it was when a no name Obama took office 4 years ago. Make all the excuses you want but that is not the past presidents fault unless bush has a ghost in the white house. Let's all get out and vote for the real financial wizard that will get this country back to the glory days.Vote Romney Tuesday ! The rest of you excommunicated Mormons take your whining to some other religious website !
November 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm | Frank
Oh get real. Rmoney ain't no financial wizard. He's the worst sort of vulture capitalist and all he would do is enrich his own type.
November 4, 2012 at 1:12 am | Daniella
We each have our own faith and relationship with God. Only God will judge us in the end. I am not making my decision on someone's religion. Unless you haven't noticed our country is in an economic crisis. There are suttle improvements in different areas of the country but the country as a whole is at a standstill. If you haven't looked at the fiscal cliff details I recommend you do so. Remember the successful states are doing well due to a bailout that has left us all wondering how we will ever payoff the national debt of 6+ trillion dollars. We're all are going to have to pay it back mormon or not.
November 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | Ellen
Daniella, how dare you presume to speak for all of us. You presumptuous beotch.
November 3, 2012 at 5:39 pm | sjlewis
November 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm | pygalgics
I thank God that our Presidents don't really believe all the religious nonsense they espouse.
November 3, 2012 at 4:16 pm | Mutt Romney
November 3, 2012 at 3:30 pm | Ellen
We are not a cult. Yeah we're different, deal with it. Don't hate us because you ain't us.
November 3, 2012 at 2:00 pm | Helen
Ellen, we don't hate you, but we do think you must be pretty gullible and stupid to fall for that Kolob stuff and the rest of J Smith's fabrications, and given that Romney claims to have fallen for them too, no thanks. I won't vote for him.
November 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm | kappello
It made him a grown up, a man not a wah wah cry baby, blame everyone else like the current guy we have in now. It made him the kind of man that five years ago called for stiff sanctions on Iran, who saw the dangers, who postponed campaigning to bring relief to victims of a tragedy, the kind of person we ought to have in the WH.
November 3, 2012 at 1:45 pm | Ellen
If a "man" needs fairy tales like Mormonism to make major decisions, no thanks. Have a nice trip to Kolob and hope your Magic Undies stay clean though.
November 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm | Barbara
Most people feel this "religion" is a cult.
I did some research and WOW!! the things they teach.
They think if you are a good Mormon you are God. Like giving the church million$ Romney acts like he's God. I don't go by what a person says- sociopaths know all the right things to say – they just don't feel it. Actions speak louder than words!!
November 3, 2012 at 1:10 pm | steacher
Oh and that Kolob thing, shhhh. We try to keep that quiet.
November 4, 2012 at 1:16 am | steacher
Very sad how misinformed you are. You do need to check your facts. You have been grossly misinformed regarding Mormonism. The church's name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints because they are followers and believers of Jesus Christ. Mitt Romney like other true believers of that faith try to live the principles and teachings of Jesus Christ.
November 4, 2012 at 1:07 am | Ellen
Mormons don't do or believe any of that. And let's look at this word "cult", you say most people (isn't that an extreme and ignorant generalization?) believe us to be a cult. The definition is: cult/kəlt/
1. A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. *ummm as Christianity, Islam, Judaism (shall I go on?)?*
1. A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister *because 13 million people is such a small group*
Just let us be, we are trying to freaking love everyone but you all make it SO HARD.
November 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm | Denise
A Mormon Lady, you may be willing to accept your second-class role in your cult, with its ceiling on what women can be, but I and others do not. It is the bravery that had roots in the suffrage movements more than 200 years ago that has brought us forward to some semblance of equal rights today, and yet there is still a long way to go. No way will I support Romney in his and his cult's efforts to claw away women's rights that have been gained over centuries of struggle and suffering.
November 3, 2012 at 10:44 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it around Kolob these days that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 3, 2012 at 10:34 am | Frank
steacher, looks like you copy and pasted to the wrong post this time. Better improve your hit rate or you won't be getting your check from the Rmoney campaign.
November 4, 2012 at 1:14 am | steacher
you are highly misinformed and totally unfamiliar with the teachings and beliefs of Mormonism. No woman in the faith catches on to a man's coattails, but rather walks as a partner in life. check your facts before spouting hate.
November 4, 2012 at 1:10 am | petmd
The right wing comments always me of the movie "Elmer Gantry"
November 3, 2012 at 7:39 am | Ron
I just hope all voters remember this tuesday that we are voting for the person that we truly believe can get this country back on track. We are certainly not voting for any specific religion. Religious bigotry has no place in this electon ! The most important question to ask yourself Tuesday before you vote is this " am I better off today than I was 4 years ago ? " I am pretty sure I know the answer to that question from most Americans !
November 3, 2012 at 12:01 am | Jen
Ron, problem is, most Americans could not give you a reasoned, accurate assessment of their own well being, whether from financial, health, or other metrics. Historically, most people also think they are worse off than previous generations, when mostly that isn't the case. Furthermore, many of the problems in the economy now are the result of previous administrations, not the present one.
That aside, Romney's policies will lead to greater inequalities between rich and poor, by design, and also to a major step backward in women's rights. Those are good reasons not to vote for Romney.
November 3, 2012 at 10:31 am | End Religion
Mormons disavowed polygamy to gain statehood. So, they ignored what they felt was "religious law" for secular law in order to gain power. The end game for any religion is to gain the power to become a theocracy, so they can revert to religious law.
November 2, 2012 at 11:55 pm | dzmanderson
I can't ever be a Mormon first and foremost above any other reasons is Mormon 
doctrine. second is because I'm a person of color and I don't hate myself. Any person of color who are Mormon has some level of self hate going on. Any religion teaches that you are the way you are because you are cursed is vile. Any religion that teaches that if you are a faithful follower your reward in the after life is to be transformed in to a Anglo Saxon, Causation Angel is just wrong. If you being a person of color and believe this rubbish and strive for this reward is plain sad.”
November 2, 2012 at 9:02 pm | Abinadi
November 2, 2012 at 9:50 pm | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it around Kolob now that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 3, 2012 at 10:33 am | Rummy Pirate Times-Dispatch
November 2, 2012 at 4:04 pm | Mitt Romney
A woman's place is in the home, man is the master !
November 2, 2012 at 3:53 pm | steacher
Don't know where you get your facts, but maybe that is how you run your life. Woman are not considered to be subject to any Master except our Savior Jesus Christ.
November 4, 2012 at 1:16 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Don't tell them the truth like that Mittie or we'll never take over and get our pre-Venus comfort station. Not that truth is your style anyway, but shape up or you'll have some serious Magic Underwear laundering to do come Wednesday. Know what I mean...
November 2, 2012 at 5:21 pm | Denise
A vote for Romney is guaranteed to be a vote that will hurt women's rights. Mormons treat women like chattel.
November 2, 2012 at 12:48 pm | Lord Golob from Kolob
Rumor has it now that our boy Mittens Rmoney is going to lose the election. However, we aren't quaking in our Koloboots or soiling our Magic Underwear now, not when we have our fluffer Abinadi working so hard for us with his comment stuffing and linkspamming.
November 2, 2012 at 11:17 am | donner
Because nothing says women's rights like a religion based on polygamy.
November 2, 2012 at 11:03 am | Denise
Indeed, the Mormon church has a particularly poor track record in regard to rights and equitable treatment of women. A vote for Romney is unlikely to be positive for women's rights.
November 2, 2012 at 12:49 pm | Rummy Pirate Times-Dispatch
And a poor track record for the rights of anyone who was not the straight-laced white male. Of course Mormons have conveniently changed their outward stance on various issues – always when it has become politically necessary.
November 2, 2012 at 4:03 pm | recovering Republician
A vote for Romney is a vote for Corporatism and ultra, ultra conservatives views on women. It's hard for me to believe how so many women will vote for this guy. Women's rights in the Morman philisophy don't exist. A women is to have children, clean the house, make the dinner and provide for the man. Women are elibible to be married at 14 and usually are arranged. The Only help a morman wife has is the assistance from the man's other wifes. See wikipedia on Romney to really get an insight. People are drawn to romney as he is a good talker, much of it, talk only they are desperate and without facts.
November 2, 2012 at 10:22 am | Denise
November 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm | Mormon boy
I am a Mormon male, and yes, you may think that I know nothing of the problems of women, but I can guarantee that I know more about women in the church than you do. First off, polygamy was denounced by the church in the late 1890s, and any polygamists around today are not affiliated with the church at all. Most women that I know through the church have jobs, and if they don't it is only because they have a child under 2 or 3 years old. Sure, women are allowed to be married at 14, but so is every other young girl in the country with parents permission. I have never heard of a Mormon girl getting married younger than 18, which is perfectly fine, as when I look around I see non-Mormon 17 year olds getting married, and even getting pregnant. In summary, most of what you said was based off of facts from the 1800s.
November 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm | Denise
Mormon boy, your indoctrination into your cult of se.xism shows very plainly in the words that you've used. First, kindly get with the times or at least 50 years ago, and stop refering to young adult women as "girls". Second, the fact that polygamy was ever santioned by your church, and then that your church changed its stance, are both glaring faults with your religion. In the second case, it shows that your god got it wrong the first time, and that your doctrine is neither perfect nor unchanging.
Here's hoping your money-grubbing member of your se.xist cult that is so degrading to women loses the election. Keep your Mittens off RMoney.
November 2, 2012 at 4:41 pm | A Mormon Lady
I am a Mormon female and was baptized more than 30 years ago. I have never been treated as second class since I became a Mormon. The men, usually the priesthood holders never at any occasion look down at us. In fact, they treasure our opinions and service. Can you imagine a church without any female members? Some women in and out of the church often criticize the church that they are not given the opportunity to be Bishop or any higher priesthood callings. I often ask myself this question too. I was called to lead women in a women's only organization within the church. I would never want to be the Bishop. In fact, if the church allows women to be in this position, I would gladly reject it. Just imagine having to listen to all the problems of more than 100 people and being a woman, having to keep my mouth shut since I am not allowed to talk to other members about other member's problems. Do you know how difficult it is for a woman to do? There are of course other reasons, such as having to spend at least more than 8 hours on Sunday attending meetings and meeting the needs of the congregation, etc. why I would reject this calling. Yes, I am proud to be a Mormon female. We also have to take into consideration that men or should I say women too are not perfect. We learn from our mistakes and grow to be a better person.
November 3, 2012 at 9:36 am | Lord Golob from Kolob
Mormon boy, love your cross-dressing job. Good one. You didn't fool us in Kolob in that dress but maybe as A Mormon Lady you can catch Mitt's coattails and sneak into a cushy life in the White House as his wife #7...
November 3, 2012 at 10:38 am | Denise
A Mormon Lady, you yourself may be willing to accept your second-class role in your cult, with its ceiling on what women can be, but I and others do not. It is the bravery that had roots in the suffrage movements more than 200 years ago that has brought us forward to some semblance of equal rights today, and yet there is still a long way to go. No way will I support Romney in his and his cult's efforts to claw away women's rights that have been gained over centuries of struggle and suffering.
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