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They said "Feral pony" but we still got Morello talking in the video
Thank you for nerfing Diana. She is way more OP than Zyra was and she got the hotfix!
swift turtle 8:
I don't get why the new champs are always overpowered. Riot has a PBE to test the stuff on! why have a PBE if you don't collect data from it. Or is Riot intentionally releasing over powered champs in order to increase sales? And if that's the case why would anyone waste their ip on runes or older champs when you can save up 6300ip for a new and overpowered champ?
Let us see the last, oh say, ten released champs.
Rengar, Diana, Zyra, Jayce, Draven, Darius, Varus, Hecarim, Lulu, and Fiora.
Of this list, Diana is about to get nerfed, Zyra had a pretty strong nerf, Darius had a slight one, and Lulu had one due to her not really being played where she was intentionally designed. That leaves Jayce, Draven, Varus, Hecarim, and Fiora virtually unscathed by the nerf pole.
Champs are not always "Overpowered" upon release. It is more of people not knowing how to effectively counter a recently released champ. It will always be easier to play a released champ and dominate, than to find the right counter almost instantaneously upon release. Once a counter is found, however, you can see them hardly, if ever played. Varus, Hecarim, Fiora, Draven, even Jayce come to mind. Hell, Lulu wasn't even played as a support, but as a top lane before she fell down the nerf tree. How many have you seen in competitive play?
Although the PBE does provide some feedback, It will never provide the kind of numbers a real server can deliver. Instead of looking at it so negatively, think about the days before they got feedback from PBE, if you were even around? Remember Vayne, or Xin Xhao upon release? MY GOD! the new kids don't know true terror... Pentakills happened every game upon their releases. I think they even had Hotfixes cause they were so ridiculously strong.
Glad for the Diana nerfs, but does he really think that most people play Ez AP? I'm happy when I see hybrid Ez, but almost everyone plays him pure AD.
So where does this leave Evelynn when it comes to Oracle's Elixir? Can we still see her with our natural stealth detection before the Oracle's Elixir would matter or do we have to start tanking gold into Oracle's again so she doesn't completely wreck us?
Yes, because we oh so want Amumu, Diana, Kat or Akali to shred through you much quicker when they aren't being affected by the range change. "What? Long range casters dealing too much damage. WHY, LET'S REDUCE THE RANGE, WEAKENING THEM, WHILE BUFFING THE ITEM SO AMUMU GOES FROM WIPING A THIRD OF YOUR HP WITH ONE ULTI TO TWO THIRDS. NPNP." No. All it means is taht you'll be replacing that Abyssal Sceptor for something else in your build.
a lot of this patch seemed off to me. I read through and alotta people say its great, but im gonna have to disagree. eve getting a mobility buff? I played eve ad and just killed the bajeezes outta people when i got in trouble i flash w and run away. I'll admit have not tried her ap but i still dont see the point of buffing her. I also feel like the abysall nerf is fine but alittle over done. it just seems like for an ap caster when their team is ap/tank heavy that abysall was sort of a last chance for mr and dmg. now i dunno, but that range looked really short, shorter than alotta cast ranges. i hope im wrong.
final thoughts update karth and soraka art, love on twitch, nerf heimer rocket/buff his grenade.
jlybomber
TheFlyingBoat:
You guys are BUFFING EZ? But he is one of the big 3, and he will undoubtedly be the big 1 after this. Please tell me there are some Tristana, Cait, MF, and Twitch buffs that are coming out as well.
Tristana is still the strongest late game carry along with ashe. No real reason to buff her plus she also has an escape mechanism unlike other ad carries. Caitlyn is supposed to be played as a pusher and harass specialist. The reason she's hard to play in teamfights is because she needs good positioning and good traps to do well.
I agree with you with the MF and Twitch buffs though. MF is played for early game dominance but she doesn't scale as well late game as other carries. I think it's because of her passive that becomes useless late game. If they reworked her passive, she'll be fine as she's 1 of the best 1v1 champs in the game due to her healing debuff. Twitch's problem is his mobility as compared to other ad carries and an unreliable slow. He's basically slower than every other carry with his q down and his slow is a difficult skillshot. Lastly, he can't hold his own against other ad carries and isn't as good of a hypercarry as vayne or kogmaw.
Yay new EVE buffs!!!!
More variety in AD Carries now that the Big 3 have been nerfed.
1...91011121314151617...78
They said "Feral pony" but we still got Morello talking in the video
Thank you for nerfing Diana. She is way more OP than Zyra was and she got the hotfix!
swift turtle 8:
I don't get why the new champs are always overpowered. Riot has a PBE to test the stuff on! why have a PBE if you don't collect data from it. Or is Riot intentionally releasing over powered champs in order to increase sales? And if that's the case why would anyone waste their ip on runes or older champs when you can save up 6300ip for a new and overpowered champ?
Let us see the last, oh say, ten released champs.
Rengar, Diana, Zyra, Jayce, Draven, Darius, Varus, Hecarim, Lulu, and Fiora.
Of this list, Diana is about to get nerfed, Zyra had a pretty strong nerf, Darius had a slight one, and Lulu had one due to her not really being played where she was intentionally designed. That leaves Jayce, Draven, Varus, Hecarim, and Fiora virtually unscathed by the nerf pole.
Champs are not always "Overpowered" upon release. It is more of people not knowing how to effectively counter a recently released champ. It will always be easier to play a released champ and dominate, than to find the right counter almost instantaneously upon release. Once a counter is found, however, you can see them hardly, if ever played. Varus, Hecarim, Fiora, Draven, even Jayce come to mind. Hell, Lulu wasn't even played as a support, but as a top lane before she fell down the nerf tree. How many have you seen in competitive play?
Although the PBE does provide some feedback, It will never provide the kind of numbers a real server can deliver. Instead of looking at it so negatively, think about the days before they got feedback from PBE, if you were even around? Remember Vayne, or Xin Xhao upon release? MY GOD! the new kids don't know true terror... Pentakills happened every game upon their releases. I think they even had Hotfixes cause they were so ridiculously strong.
Glad for the Diana nerfs, but does he really think that most people play Ez AP? I'm happy when I see hybrid Ez, but almost everyone plays him pure AD.
So where does this leave Evelynn when it comes to Oracle's Elixir? Can we still see her with our natural stealth detection before the Oracle's Elixir would matter or do we have to start tanking gold into Oracle's again so she doesn't completely wreck us?
Yes, because we oh so want Amum
u, Diana, Kat or Akali to shred through you much quicker when they aren't being affected by the range change. "What? Long range casters dealing too much damage. WHY, LET'S REDUCE THE RANGE, WEAKENING THEM, WHILE BUFFING THE ITEM SO AMUMU GOES FROM WIPING A THIRD OF YOUR HP WITH ONE ULTI TO TWO THIRDS. NPNP." No. All it means is taht you'll be replacing that Abyssal Sceptor for something else in your build.
a lot of this patch seemed off to me. I read through and alotta people say its great, but im gonna have to disagree. eve getting a mobility buff? I played eve ad and just killed the bajeezes outta people when i got in trouble i flash w and run away. I'll admit have not tried her ap but i still dont see the point of buffing her. I also feel like the abysall nerf is fine but alittle over done. it just seems like for an ap caster when their team is ap/tank heavy that abysall was sort of a last chance for mr and dmg. now i dunno, but that range looked really short, shorter than alotta cast ranges. i hope im wrong.
final thoughts update karth and soraka art, love on twitch, nerf heimer rocket/buff his grenade.
jlybomber
TheFlyingBoat:
You guys are BUFFING EZ? But he is one of the big 3, and he will undoubtedly be the big 1 after this. Please tell me there are some Tristana, Cait, MF, and Twitch buffs that are coming out as well.
Tristana is still the strongest late game carry along with ashe. No real reason to buff her plus she also has an escape mechanism unlike other ad carries. Caitlyn is supposed to be played as a pusher and harass specialist. The reason she's hard to play in teamfights is because she needs good positioning and good traps to do well.
I agree with you with the MF and Twitch buffs though. MF is played for early game dominance but she doesn't scale as well late game as other carries. I think it's because of her passive that becomes useless late game. If they reworked her passive, she'll be fine as she's 1 of the best 1v1 champs in the game due to her healing debuff. Twitch's problem is his mobility as compared to other ad carries and an unreliable slow. He's basically slower than every other carry with his q down and his slow is a difficult skillshot. Lastly, he can't hold his own against other ad carries and isn't as good of a hypercarry as vayne or kogmaw.
Yay new EVE buffs!!!!
More variety in AD Carries now that the Big 3 have been nerfed.