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pooltchr01-13-2008, 05:41 PMThe Democrats have gotten themselves into a no-win situation in this election. If they don't support Hillary, the will be accused of being sexists. If they don't support Obama, they will be accused of being racists. And if they support Edwards, the will be accused of being both!
LWW01-13-2008, 07:32 PMThis is a very weak field on both sides.
That being said, the Clintonista machine is powerful and armed with 700+ illegally obtained FBI files on most all leading pols in the country.
They have shown a willingness in the past to leak data thru sources such as Larry Flynt to force others in the DNC to toe the line.
nAz01-13-2008, 09:33 PM<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> This is a very weak field on both sides.
That being said, the Clintonista machine is powerful and armed with 700+ illegally obtained FBI files on most all leading pols in the country. They have shown a willingness in the past to leak data thru sources such as Larry Flynt to force others in the DNC to toe the line.
hey lww , what were the official findings into this matter? i never heard much about it.
LWW01-13-2008, 10:27 PMThey were pulled by an unauthorized staff member that nobody remembers hiring. Imagine that.
Drop101-13-2008, 10:39 PMWho were the sources? Connect them to Larry Flynt.Name people in the DNC who were forced to toe the line. Tell everyone what the line is,and wrap it up by connecting all information to the Clintons. Its your post pal,lets see what you got.
Drop101-13-2008, 10:42 PMThat is easy to imagine,and only you knew about it...imagine.
LWW01-13-2008, 10:58 PMSure. The sources for the files were the FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filegate) [ QUOTE ]
The White House FBI files controversy of the Clinton Administration, often referred to in the press as Filegate,[1] arose in June 1996 around improper access in 1993 and 1994 to Federal Bureau of Investigation security-clearance documents.[2] Craig Livingstone, director of the White House's Office of Personnel Security,[3] improperly requested, and received from the FBI, background reports without asking permission of the subject individuals. Estimates range from 400 to 700 to 900 unauthorized file disclosures.[4][5][6][7] The incident caused a firestorm of criticism because many of the files covered White House employees from previous Republican administrations, including top figures such as James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, and Marlin Fitzwater.[5] Under criticism, Livingstone resigned from his position...A secondary question of the Filegate controversy revolved around what the Office of Personnel Security was, who had authorized the hiring of Livingstone, and whether he was qualified for the job. The Office was not responsible for actual White House security, as that was the charge of the United States Secret Service,[3] nor did it perform background checks on potential White House employees, a task done by the FBI,[17] nor did it keep the regular personnel files of employees, which were held in a different office within the White House.[9] Rather, its role was to keep track of who was employed by the White House, make sure their security clearances were up to date, and give security briefings to new hires.[18] Nevertheless, Livingstone seemed to lack qualifications for even this position; he had worked on a number of Democratic Party campaigns and transitions,[17] including being an advance man for the Clinton-Gore 1992 campaign,[3] and his only prior job in the "security" field was that of a local bar bouncer[4] at a Washington, D.C., night club. (At the congressional hearings, Livingstone objected to "false and unfair caricatures of who I am. [...] I have worked hard for little or no pay in political campaigns for candidates who I felt would make this country a better place to live."[17]) Clinton opponents stated that Livingstone had the highest level of security clearances in the U.S. government.[19] White House officials could not explain why Livingstone was hired, nor who had hired him.<hr /></blockquote> LWW
LWW01-13-2008, 11:02 PMHERE (http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/1998/128.shtml) is data on the lawsuit filed linking Clinton to Flynt to Clinton's PI firm and the FBI files.
Responding to a Tuesday Los Angeles Times report that Clinton "regaled" a group at the White House with the details of a letter from pornographer Larry Flynt to Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman noted that "this is further powerful circumstantial evidence that Flynt is in league with President Clinton." Other media outlets have reported that Flynt, in his effort to destroy Republicans such as Congressman Bob Livingston, is using a private investigative firm in Washington, DC composed of former CIA and FBI agents. "This almost certainly is the President�s private investigative firm IGI, run by Terry Lenzner with the aid of Larry Potts, who left the FBI und
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pooltchr01-13-2008, 05:41 PMThe Democrats have gotten themselves into a no-win situation in this election. If they don't support Hillary, the will be accused of being sexists. If they don't support Obama, they will be accused of being racists. And if they support Edwards, the will be accused of being both!
LWW01-13-2008, 07:32 PMThis is a very weak field on both sides.
That being said, the Clintonista machine is powerful and armed with 700+ illegally obtained FBI files on most all leading pols in the country.
They have shown a willingness in the past to leak data thru sources such as Larry Flynt to force others in the DNC to toe the line.
nAz01-13-2008, 09:33 PM<blockquote><font class="small">Quote LWW:</font><hr> This is a very weak field on both sides.
That being said, the Clintonista machine is powerful and armed with 700+ illegally obtained FBI files on most all leading pols in the country. They have shown a willingness in the past to leak data thru sources such as Larry Flynt to force others in the DNC to toe the line.
hey lww , what were the official findings into this matter? i never heard much about it.
LWW01-13-2008, 10:27 PMThey were pulled by an unauthorized staff member that nobody remembers hiring. Imagine that.
Drop101-13-2008, 10:39 PMWho were the sources? Connect them to Larry Flynt.Name people in the DNC who were forced to toe the line. Tell everyone what the line is,and wrap it up by connecting all information to the Clintons. Its your post pal,lets see what you got.
Drop101-13-2008, 10:42 PMThat is easy to imagine,and only you knew about it...imagine.
LWW01-13-2008, 10:58 PMSure. The sources for the files were the FBI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filegate) [ QUOTE ]
The White House FBI files controversy of the Clinton Administration, often referred to in the press as Filegate,[1] arose in June 1996 around improper access in 1993 and 1994 to Federal Bureau of Investigation security-clearance documents.[2] Craig Livingstone, director of the White House's Office of Personnel Security,[3] improperly requested, and received from the FBI, background reports without asking permission of the subject individuals. Estimates range from 400 to 700 to 900 unauthorized file disclosures.[4][5][6][7] The incident caused a firestorm of criticism because many of the files covered White House employees from previous Republican administrations, includ
ing top figures such as James Baker, Brent Scowcroft, and Marlin Fitzwater.[5] Under criticism, Livingstone resigned from his position...A secondary question of the Filegate controversy revolved around what the Office of Personnel Security was, who had authorized the hiring of Livingstone, and whether he was qualified for the job. The Office was not responsible for actual White House security, as that was the charge of the United States Secret Service,[3] nor did it perform background checks on potential White House employees, a task done by the FBI,[17] nor did it keep the regular personnel files of employees, which were held in a different office within the White House.[9] Rather, its role was to keep track of who was employed by the White House, make sure their security clearances were up to date, and give security briefings to new hires.[18] Nevertheless, Livingstone seemed to lack qualifications for even this position; he had worked on a number of Democratic Party campaigns and transitions,[17] including being an advance man for the Clinton-Gore 1992 campaign,[3] and his only prior job in the "security" field was that of a local bar bouncer[4] at a Washington, D.C., night club. (At the congressional hearings, Livingstone objected to "false and unfair caricatures of who I am. [...] I have worked hard for little or no pay in political campaigns for candidates who I felt would make this country a better place to live."[17]) Clinton opponents stated that Livingstone had the highest level of security clearances in the U.S. government.[19] White House officials could not explain why Livingstone was hired, nor who had hired him.<hr /></blockquote> LWW
LWW01-13-2008, 11:02 PMHERE (http://www.judicialwatch.org/archive/1998/128.shtml) is data on the lawsuit filed linking Clinton to Flynt to Clinton's PI firm and the FBI files.
Responding to a Tuesday Los Angeles Times report that Clinton "regaled" a group at the White House with the details of a letter from pornographer Larry Flynt to Independent Counsel Kenneth Starr, Judicial Watch Chairman and General Counsel Larry Klayman noted that "this is further powerful circumstantial evidence that Flynt is in league with President Clinton." Other media outlets have reported that Flynt, in his effort to destroy Republicans such as Congressman Bob Livingston, is using a private investigative firm in Washington, DC composed of former CIA and FBI agents. "This almost certainly is the President�s private investigative firm IGI, run by Terry Lenzner with the aid of Larry Potts, who left the FBI und