The Coup in Syria has Failed also., page 1
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 05:58 AM
a reply to: ZoeEleutheria
I don't think it would do any good to explain to people who think that it is the fault of "the Arabs" that they are pawns in a scheme to protect the illegal state of Israel from being taken back by its original inhabitants, that it is not the fault of the Arabs because you won't accept the facts anyway.
There are many more Arabs than Israelis; why are the Arabs fighting each other? Israel is perfectly legal, the first European Jews who settled there paid for the land. Sorry if you can't accept the fact that the same historical documents that legitimize the state of Palestine legitimize the state of Israel. If the Arabs had helped the Palestinians to establish a viable state instead of herding them into camps, there would have been much less bloodshed and Palestine and Israel would be great partners.
The war in Syria is an engineered for profit endeavor and not about what you are told and evidently believe.
I agree, someone is making a profit:
The Kommersant daily said last week, quoting Kremlin insiders and military analysts, that the "marketing effect" of the Syrian conflict will boost Russia's arms sales by up to $7bn.
It's sickening to blame Arabs for no other reason than it is what you are told is true.
And its sad that some people would rather hate than work together.
Who owns the media, occupies Israel and fears and hates Arabs? Frankists. Who are Frankists? That is hard to say because they have infiltrated everything, but they are Jews who follow the teachings of Zevy and Frank.
The Nazis did their work well when they rebuilt the Arab world in their image. You actually believe that Anti-Semitic propaganda.
ZoeEleutheria
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:31 AM
There are many more Arabs than Israelis; why are the Arabs fighting each other?
Because it is engineered by scumbags who don't value life. In other words it is because powerful people want them to.
Israel is perfectly legal, the first European Jews who settled there paid for the land.
Then the Balfour declaration, which is a joke, gave them a premise to invade Palestine and rid the land of its inhabitants, the Palestinians.
They have no legitimate right to that land, Israel is an illegal occupation no matter what way you choose to say it isn't. Invasion is invasion.
Sorry if you can't accept the fact that the same historical documents that legitimize the state of Palestine legitimize the state of Israel. If the Arabs had helped the Palestinians to establish a viable state instead of herding them into camps, there would have been much less bloodshed and Palestine and Israel would be great partners.
I think you have been fully indoctrinated into the NWO. Congrats, I prefer the truth though and the truth is that Israel is an occupied Palestinian territory and the cause of constant war.
The Zionist owned media is not going to admit this but you could find out what is REALLY going on if you wanted too.
I am just hip to the propagandist tactics and immune to bull$hittery.
edit on 21-7-2016 by ZoeEleutheria because: (no reason given)
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:39 AM
I wasn't thinking of you saying Assad should be removed that stupidity lies at Obama's door solely with the help he got from various Western leaders most of whom I suspect hold blackmail higher than their integrity. No aspersions cast in your direction whatsoever, sorry if you thought so.
Russia has had a base in Syria for a long time and is Assad's ally, so common sense says it would be involved even if only to protect its base. In fact it was Western financing and incitement that started trouble in Syria and or course things like the drilling on Syrian land for oil carried out by its neighbours etc along with a few other reasons.
Russia only came into the conflict mainstream when it was obvious Western money was achieving nothing but destruction and misery to the people there over a long time. Many don't like Assad but originally they voted for him because the country worked which it barely does today due to foreign meddlers. It is just another example of a policy that has no true reason or result except chaos and the spread of too many refugees and people who have suffered from Western interference in their countries; although perhaps they should have sorted out their own countries rather than leaving them wide open to the psychotic money men and their agendas.
I would remind you of Libya where men like Cameron and Obama armed the Libyan dissidents and caused that war. Obama and his ilk get told to destroy a country and off they go - we now have a string of them and all the consequences. Perhaps the money men have an agenda for war, but where they are going to go if it starts will be interesting to see because I suspect a few with brains will seek them out from under their stones.
Its hard to understand in the West the tribal or religious hatred that exists in some ME countries because we got over these things generations ago although perhaps we are facing a sharp learning curve on this matter.
I agree. I included these few lines in my starting post and only wish for a peaceful end to this misery for those poor Syrian peoples some of whom have always supported Mr Assad and the others who started peacefully to look for change.. Peace..
I have started this thread after a French and coalition bombing raid has killed quite a few civilians after the Nice terrorist attack. I am wondering how any of this will stop if we are continuing to antagonize the wasps nest that is Syria..
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:40 AM
I can tell in 3 seconds how uninformed and indoctrinated you are by the fact that you consider the term Anti-Semite legitimate.
That word is propaganda, the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semites and they are the majority by far. Definitely who we are discussing too.
Arabs are Semites. Ashkenazi Jews are European blooded.
So it is you buying propaganda, I actually know what I am talking about and don't get my information from bias sources.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:48 AM
Just because every dictionary defines it as "hatred of Jews" does not make it illegitimate.
Funny... Caucasians are pink, not white, and most of them do not actually come from the Caucuses. Does that make the terms "white" and "Caucasian" illegitimate?
Then the Arabs who let other Arabs die in the service of their cause are doubly Anti-Semitic.
Where do you get your information? I'll bet it cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 07:13 AM
People like Putin? Assad? Stalin and Nassar before them? The Mullahs of Tehran? The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?
It's not a joke. It may have been the product of Imperialism, but Britain beat the Ottoman Empire fair and square. The inhabitants of the Levant were Muslims, Christians and Jews. They were all subjects of the Ottoman Empire, not "Palestinians." The same declaration and UN resolutions that created Israel created Palestine at the same time. If you reject Israel, you reject Palestine. Most of the Arab states, in effect, did this by not helping their fellow Muslims to establish a healthy state on the West Bank.
And betrayal is betrayal. Palestine's neighbors betrayed their fellow Arabs out of political ambition and hatred of Jews.
No comment? Wouldn't you want to see a strong, healthy Palestine standing side by side with a safe, secure Israel? Together, they would be the economic giant of the Eastern Mediterranean. Could that be what the Arab dictatorships of the region are afraid of?
Still no comment? Does Russia's profiteering from Syria's pain not fit with your agenda?
No "amen?"
That's all you have? If you disagree with me you have been brainwashed by the NWO? The sad, bitter truth of the matter is that Israel and Palestine were born at the same moment, and the Arab world tried to strangle them both in the crib.
You are the one who needs an education. Take a deep breath, release your hate and try visiting this site:
vispo.com...
edit on 21-7-2016 by DJW001 because: Edit to polish style.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 07:46 AM
Look, just because I don't by into the hate Islam and Arabs fad and you do only means you are easily influenced by mainstream media and the agenda of "elites."
You obviously have no knowledge of reality when it comes to the agenda of Israel.
I don't hate people as a whole because that's the epitome of ignorance. Arabs and Jews aren't evil but there are evil Arabs and Jews/Israelis.
If that is hard to understand then sorry, but stereotypes are not universally true, good vs evil is a human fight and has nothing to do with Arabs as a people.
Arabs are good Americans. Even though they are insulted daily by people who need someone to hate. That says a lot.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 08:08 AM
Just because I point out the historical political realities on the part of the Arab elites I hate Islam? Sorry, but you need to review someone's posting history before you jump to conclusions.
And you obviously have no knowledge of Israel. Israel does not have an agenda, because it is a pluralistic society. Yes, the Right there has an ugly agenda, but there are also liberals opposed to it. The Syrian conflict is what happens when an Islamic majority rises up against the ruling minority. No outside interference necessary. And, to be clear, it's not because they are Arabs, it's because they never learned democratic ways.
And yet you think the entire state o Israel is evil and has no right to exist?
Correct, nor does it have to do with some Jews being of European descent, as you have explicitly tried to maintain.
I agree. What does that have to do with Assad killing his own people with the help of Vladimir "Buy Our Weapons" Putin?
The Coup in Syria has Failed also., page 1
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 05:58 AM
a reply to: ZoeEleutheria
I don't think it would do any good to explain to people who think that it is the fault of "the Arabs" that they are pawns in a scheme to protect the illegal state of Israel from being taken back by its original inhabitants, that it is not the fault of the Arabs because you won't accept the facts anyway.
There are many more Arabs than Israelis; why are the Arabs fighting each other? Israel is perfectly legal, the first European Jews who settled there paid for the land. Sorry if you can't accept the fact that the same historical documents that legitimize the state of Palestine legitimize the state of Israel. If the Arabs had helped the Palestinians to establish a viable state instead of herding them into camps, there would have been much less bloodshed and Palestine and Israel would be great partners.
The war in Syria is an engineered for profit endeavor and not about what you are told and evidently believe.
I agree, someone is making a profit:
The Kommersant daily said last week, quoting Kremlin insiders and military analysts, that the "marketing effect" of the Syrian conflict will boost Russia's arms sales by up to $7bn.
It's sickening to blame Arabs for no other reason than it is what you are told is true.
And its sad that some people would rather hate than work together.
Who owns the media, occupies Israel and fears and hates Arabs? Frankists. Who are Frankists? That is hard to say because they have infiltrated everything, but they are Jews who follow the teachings of Zevy and Frank.
The Nazis did their work well when they rebuilt the Arab world in their image. You actually believe that Anti-Semitic propaganda.
ZoeEleutheria
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:31 AM
There are many more Arabs than Israelis; why are the Arabs fighting each other?
Because it is engineered by scumbags who don't value life. In other words it is because powerful people want them to.
Israel is perfectly legal, the first European Jews who settled there paid for the land.
Then the Balfour declaration, which is a joke, gave them a premise to invade Palestine and rid the land of its inhabitants, the Palestinians.
They have no legitimate right to that land, Israel is an illegal occupation no matter what way you choose to say it isn't. Invasion is invasion.
Sorry if you can't accept the fact that the same historical documents that legitimize the state of Palestine legitimize the state of Israel. If the Arabs had helped the Palestinians to establish a viable state instead of herding them into camps, there would have been much less bloodshed and Palestine and Israel would be great partners.
I think you have been fully indoctrinated into the NWO. Congrats, I prefer the truth though and the truth is that Israel is an occupied Palestinian territory and the cause of constant war.
The Zionist owned media is not going to admit this but you could find out what is REALLY going on if you wanted too.
I am just hip to the propagandist tactics and immune to bull$hittery.
edit on 21-7-2016 by ZoeEleutheria because: (no reason given)
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:39 AM
I wasn't thinking of you saying Assad should be removed that stupidity lies at Obama's door solely with the help he got from various Western leaders most of whom I suspect hold blackmail higher than their integrity. No aspersions cast in your direction whatsoever, sorry if you thought so.
Russia has had a base in Syria for a long time and is Assad's ally, so common sense says it would be involved even if only to protect its base. In fact it was Western financing and incitement that started trouble in Syria and or course things like the drilling on Syrian land for oil carried out by its neighbours etc along with a few other reasons.
Russia only came into the conflict mainstream when it was obvious Western money was achieving nothing but destruction and misery to the people there over a long time. Many don't like Assad but originally they voted for him because the country worked which it barely does today due to foreign meddlers. It is just another example of a policy that has no true reason or result except chaos and the spread of too many refugees and people who have suffered from Western interference in their countries; although perhaps they should have sorted out their own countries rather than leaving them wide open to the psychotic money men and their agendas.
I would remind you of Libya where men like Cameron and Obama armed the Libyan dissidents and caused that war. Obama and his ilk get told to destroy a country and off they go - we now have a string of them and all the consequences. Perhaps the money men have an agenda for war, but where they are going to go if it starts will be interesting to see because I suspect a few with brains will seek them out from under their
 stones.
Its hard to understand in the West the tribal or religious hatred that exists in some ME countries because we got over these things generations ago although perhaps we are facing a sharp learning curve on this matter.
I agree. I included these few lines in my starting post and only wish for a peaceful end to this misery for those poor Syrian peoples some of whom have always supported Mr Assad and the others who started peacefully to look for change.. Peace..
I have started this thread after a French and coalition bombing raid has killed quite a few civilians after the Nice terrorist attack. I am wondering how any of this will stop if we are continuing to antagonize the wasps nest that is Syria..
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:40 AM
I can tell in 3 seconds how uninformed and indoctrinated you are by the fact that you consider the term Anti-Semite legitimate.
That word is propaganda, the Ashkenazi Jews are not Semites and they are the majority by far. Definitely who we are discussing too.
Arabs are Semites. Ashkenazi Jews are European blooded.
So it is you buying propaganda, I actually know what I am talking about and don't get my information from bias sources.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 06:48 AM
Just because every dictionary defines it as "hatred of Jews" does not make it illegitimate.
Funny... Caucasians are pink, not white, and most of them do not actually come from the Caucuses. Does that make the terms "white" and "Caucasian" illegitimate?
Then the Arabs who let other Arabs die in the service of their cause are doubly Anti-Semitic.
Where do you get your information? I'll bet it cites the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 07:13 AM
People like Putin? Assad? Stalin and Nassar before them? The Mullahs of Tehran? The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?
It's not a joke. It may have been the product of Imperialism, but Britain beat the Ottoman Empire fair and square. The inhabitants of the Levant were Muslims, Christians and Jews. They were all subjects of the Ottoman Empire, not "Palestinians." The same declaration and UN resolutions that created Israel created Palestine at the same time. If you reject Israel, you reject Palestine. Most of the Arab states, in effect, did this by not helping their fellow Muslims to establish a healthy state on the West Bank.
And betrayal is betrayal. Palestine's neighbors betrayed their fellow Arabs out of political ambition and hatred of Jews.
No comment? Wouldn't you want to see a strong, healthy Palestine standing side by side with a safe, secure Israel? Together, they would be the economic giant of the Eastern Mediterranean. Could that be what the Arab dictatorships of the region are afraid of?
Still no comment? Does Russia's profiteering from Syria's pain not fit with your agenda?
No "amen?"
That's all you have? If you disagree with me you have been brainwashed by the NWO? The sad, bitter truth of the matter is that Israel and Palestine were born at the same moment, and the Arab world tried to strangle them both in the crib.
You are the one who needs an education. Take a deep breath, release your hate and try visiting this site:
vispo.com...
edit on 21-7-2016 by DJW001 because: Edit to polish style.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 07:46 AM
Look, just because I don't by into the hate Islam and Arabs fad and you do only means you are easily influenced by mainstream media and the agenda of "elites."
You obviously have no knowledge of reality when it comes to the agenda of Israel.
I don't hate people as a whole because that's the epitome of ignorance. Arabs and Jews aren't evil but there are evil Arabs and Jews/Israelis.
If that is hard to understand then sorry, but stereotypes are not universally true, good vs evil is a human fight and has nothing to do with Arabs as a people.
Arabs are good Americans. Even though they are insulted daily by people who need someone to hate. That says a lot.
posted on Jul, 21 2016 @ 08:08 AM
Just because I point out the historical political realities on the part of the Arab elites I hate Islam? Sorry, but you need to review someone's posting history before you jump to conclusions.
And you obviously have no knowledge of Israel. Israel does not have an agenda, because it is a pluralistic society. Yes, the Right there has an ugly agenda, but there are also liberals opposed to it. The Syrian conflict is what happens when an Islamic majority rises up against the ruling minority. No outside interference necessary. And, to be clear, it's not because they are Arabs, it's because they never learned democratic ways.
And yet you think the entire state o Israel is evil and has no right to exist?
Correct, nor does it have to do with some Jews being of European descent, as you have explicitly tried to maintain.
I agree. What does that have to do with Assad killing his own people with the help of Vladimir "Buy Our Weapons" Putin?