Would you be offended? - Non-Romantic Relationships -Issues with friends, family, co-workers, acquaintances - Page 3 - City-Data Forum
Status: "Whiners and complainers should be shot to death at birth" (set 18 days ago)
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You know, some people really start doing strange things after their SO's deaths. My BIL took my money and didn't return (2K or so), then when I called him a thief he didn't let me lay my father for rest (in an urn) in the same grave where my siter, Mom, and grandma were already waiting for him, so I bought another lot in the same cemetery. Putting it mildly, I was mad. Then I thought about it and remembered, that he is alone with two 12-y-o daughters and an old mother. Suddenly, I felt more pity than anger for him. I forgave him, and I think you can forgive your friend's husband, too. He is not your friend, he is trying to accumulate more assets for his family, he feels more vulnerable (economically, too) when your friend is gone. Write this review for him, help him. Don't grudge, it wont either change or help anything.
Very sorry about your friend, but you have done more than enough. The fact that you bought the book(if this guy had any class he would have sent you the book), you write him a nice letter and don't hear back, the heck with him.
Many times after someone passes and that person was the connection between two other people, there isn't much reason to stay in contact.
This. I don't know the ages of anyone at all here or their loved ones but I will say this...when something devastating, like a death or a huge reversal of 'fortune' occurs in someone's life a huge hole and cloud of darkness overcomes them.
It's not on purpose, it is not out of spite...it is just this huge dark abyss and it engulfs you completely, heart and soul. You avoid people in general but also the ones you were once close to and enjoyed their love, friendship, and company so much...everything is a reminder of days gone by and it hurts...it hurts a lot.
This is not the reaction of all people but for a segment of our population, it does happen. When they are able to see the light, the clouds turn to sun, and they step back from the abyss...their only thought is to come up with a new plan for their life, a new way to survive...they starting building a new 'normal' for themselves. In the process they lose what they had and let go of what is left and it is very hurtful and it makes us wonder why because we don't understand.
Maybe this is not what has happened in this case but maybe just another possibility of where people 'go' when faced with these situations, maybe.
I agree as it seems to me that in the end when we choose to do so, the hurt is only magnified and yet stays with US, bigger and bigger with each new day, too much of a burden for me to carry to the end of my days. I want love and peace in my life and I have learned to rid myself of the proverbial 'axes to grind', I'm done with that. If I can help someone through something, anything...in whatever way possible, I will. If afterwards there is silence, I can live with that too.
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If he's pushing you to not only buy his book but also write a review---is this because he did a vanity printing? When people do those, they have to cough up the cash to publish it and promote it. That said, if this happened to me where someone you considered a friend and who cut off all contact only to resurface when they want something---yes, I would feel hurt and and feel like I was being used.
I have had people in my life that I thought were friends who got to the point where I only heard from them when they wanted something. When that happened, I stopped contacting them.
Still, when it happens, it does smart. For example, I had a friend whom I met when I was in college. After we graduated, she moved to the midwest with her husband. I would call her once a month to chat because long distance calls back then cost money. She never called me, even though they were better off financially but she sure would talk when I called! So, I gave up calling her thus ending our phone conversations. Once a year, I would get a Xmas card from her with one of those brag letters in it. She ended up going to law school. When she finished, she called me. I was pleased to hear from her but it turned out that she called only because she wanted something. She wanted me to write a recommendation letter to the state bar association for her. While it bothered me that she only called for that reason, I agreed to do this. Then I stopped hearing from her. No Xmas cards, no congratulations card when our daughter was born. No response when I wrote and asked her if all was well. A couple of years later, we got a Xmas card from her with the usual brag letter. Her husband signed it and wrote "Keep in touch". Seriously?
It always disappointing when people only get in touch because they want something.
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Whoa. He seems to be trying to make money out of the death of his wife, one of your best friends.
You are being used and are rightfully offended.
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Ignore him, see how he likes it. Or just respond with a simple 'No, I won't'.
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Let me make it perfectly clear, he is not an asshat. He is an amazing father and was a wonderful husband. The book is a beautiful tribute. I am just offended he hasn't contacted me in two years until he needs something.
10-02-2014, 07:23 AM
Men tend to treat relationships all the same, i.e., business networking and friendships. There are some men who have friends they "do things" with all the time -- golf or hunting buddies, for example. But most men, especially if they are at the executive level, don't think a thing about it if years lapse in between talking to or corresponding with friends. They compartmentalize things . . . you are doubtless in this man's camp of "friends" and he assumes you will always be in that camp.
Men who have been married a long time typically defer responsibility to their wives, often by default, for taking care of the "emotional ties" during the marriage. The wives are the ones who plan family get togethers as well as couple events. Often, husbands just blissfully drift along assuming life just falls in place that way . . . their wives will let them know where to be and what event they are attending, and when. The wives are the ones who manage everything to do with interacting with family and friends.
SO I wouldn't be offended. He obviously trusts you.
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I would not write a review for the book. I would let him know how you feel and not contact him. He is in an odd place in his life. He may be ok later and a friend maybe not. Give the situation some time.
I would be offended, frustrated mad and feel like he was trying to use me.
Would you be offended? - Non-Romantic Relationships -Issues with friends, family, co-workers, acquaintances - Page 3 - City-Data Forum
Status: "Whiners and complainers should be shot to death at birth" (set 18 days ago)
1,293 posts, read 942,671 times
You know, some people really start doing strange things after their SO's deaths. My BIL took my money and didn't return (2K or so), then when I called him a thief he didn't let me lay my father for rest (in an urn) in the same grave where my siter, Mom, and grandma were already waiting for him, so I bought another lot in the same cemetery. Putting it mildly, I was mad. Then I thought about it and remembered, that he is alone with two 12-y-o daughters and an old mother. Suddenly, I felt more pity than anger for him. I forgave him, and I think you can forgive your friend's husband, too. He is not your friend, he is trying to accumulate more assets for his family, he feels more vulnerable (economically, too) when your friend is gone. Write this review for him, help him. Don't grudge, it wont either change or help anything.
Very sorry about your friend, but you have done more than enough. The fact that you bought the book(if this guy had any class he would have sent you the book), you write him a nice letter and don't hear back, the heck with him.
Many times after someone passes and that person was the connection between two other people, there isn't much reason to stay in contact.
This. I don't know the ages of anyone at all here or their loved ones but I will say this...when something devastating, like a death or a huge reversal of 'fortune' occurs in someone's life a huge hole and cloud of darkness overcomes them.
It's not on purpose, it is not out of spite...it is just this huge dark abyss and it engulfs you completely, heart and soul. You avoid people in general but also the ones you were once close to and enjoyed their love, friendship, and company so much...everything is a reminder of days gone by and it hurts...it hurts a lot.
This is not the reaction of all people but for a segment of our population, it does happen. When they are able to see the light, the clouds turn to sun, and they step back from the abyss...their only thought is to come up with a new plan for their life, a new way to survive...they starting building a new 'normal' for themselves. In the process they lose what they had and let go of what is left and it is very hurtful and it makes us wonder why because we don't understand.
Maybe this is not what has happened in this case but maybe just another possibility of where people 'go' when faced with these situations, maybe.
I agree as it seems to me that in the end when we choose to do so, the hurt is only magnified and yet stays with US, bigger and bigger with each new day, too much of a burden for me to carry to the end of my days. I want love and peace in my life and I have learned to rid myself of the proverbial 'axes to grind', I'm done with that. If I can help someone through something, anything...in whatever way possible, I will. If afterwards there is silence, I can live with that too.
12,925 posts, read 6,184,694 times
If he's pushing you to not only buy his book but also write a review---is this because he did a vanity printing? When people do those, they have to cough up the cash to publish it and promote it. That said, if this happened to me where someone you considered a friend and who cut off all cont
act only to resurface when they want something---yes, I would feel hurt and and feel like I was being used.
I have had people in my life that I thought were friends who got to the point where I only heard from them when they wanted something. When that happened, I stopped contacting them.
Still, when it happens, it does smart. For example, I had a friend whom I met when I was in college. After we graduated, she moved to the midwest with her husband. I would call her once a month to chat because long distance calls back then cost money. She never called me, even though they were better off financially but she sure would talk when I called! So, I gave up calling her thus ending our phone conversations. Once a year, I would get a Xmas card from her with one of those brag letters in it. She ended up going to law school. When she finished, she called me. I was pleased to hear from her but it turned out that she called only because she wanted something. She wanted me to write a recommendation letter to the state bar association for her. While it bothered me that she only called for that reason, I agreed to do this. Then I stopped hearing from her. No Xmas cards, no congratulations card when our daughter was born. No response when I wrote and asked her if all was well. A couple of years later, we got a Xmas card from her with the usual brag letter. Her husband signed it and wrote "Keep in touch". Seriously?
It always disappointing when people only get in touch because they want something.
506 posts, read 262,408 times
Whoa. He seems to be trying to make money out of the death of his wife, one of your best friends.
You are being used and are rightfully offended.
726 posts, read 697,922 times
Ignore him, see how he likes it. Or just respond with a simple 'No, I won't'.
15,012 posts, read 21,669,103 times
Let me make it perfectly clear, he is not an asshat. He is an amazing father and was a wonderful husband. The book is a beautiful tribute. I am just offended he hasn't contacted me in two years until he needs something.
10-02-2014, 07:23 AM
Men tend to treat relationships all the same, i.e., business networking and friendships. There are some men who have friends they "do things" with all the time -- golf or hunting buddies, for example. But most men, especially if they are at the executive level, don't think a thing about it if years lapse in between talking to or corresponding with friends. They compartmentalize things . . . you are doubtless in this man's camp of "friends" and he assumes you will always be in that camp.
Men who have been married a long time typically defer responsibility to their wives, often by default, for taking care of the "emotional ties" during the marriage. The wives are the ones who plan family get togethers as well as couple events. Often, husbands just blissfully drift along assuming life just falls in place that way . . . their wives will let them know where to be and what event they are attending, and when. The wives are the ones who manage everything to do with interacting with family and friends.
SO I wouldn't be offended. He obviously trusts you.
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I would not write a review for the book. I would let him know how you feel and not contact him. He is in an odd place in his life. He may be ok later and a friend maybe not. Give the situation some time.
I would be offended, frustrated mad and feel like he was trying to use me.