Xavier Thoughts: Idiots with Guns #24
This may be your spookiest one yet!
I find it so hard to imagine what is going on in these folks heads.
Thanks for doing this blog it is an enjoyable read.
Of the series, the ones that feature a live round peeking out of the bore bother me the most. That cameraman may be only seconds away from a really bad day.
Looks like a 45. How do we know someone is behind the camera? Could this have been taken at a range with a timer? just for sake of argument ;')
Anonymous - Even so, he's about 3 lb's shy of needing a new camera, drywall, maybe replacing the neightbors cat....the neighbor?
Rules #2 and #4 spring to mind.
Perhaps it is a cheap camera Josh? Perhaps he is at the range or at least nothing or no one behind the camera? Can't honestly say that I can tell there is or isn't a live round in the chamber. I'm just saying without knowing the context of the picture I can't snap to judgment. I've seen pictures much like this taken in some gun magazines. In fact Josh, on your own site, in your Kimber report the 4th photo is taken from a precarious angle. Yeah, I know….it wasn’t loaded! ;’) Nice Kimber by the way. My only point is… perhaps the guy is an idiot…perhaps he was taking an “action shot” in a relatively safe manner (I.E.: At the range, with a camera with a timer on a tripod, and the gun had a dummy round.. I can’t really tell for 100% sure without context for the shot (camera that is)…
My point is not that this might be something other than what it appears to be. To the viewer, it is what it appears to be.
It appears to be a young man with a loaded Glock, aiming it at a camera that may be on a timer, on a remote, or more likely held by his friend judging from the nice angle looking down the barrel. Then, the young man's finger is on the trigger, deactivating the ONLY safety on a Glock. This violates at least three of the four rules.
Now, even if he is using smoke and mirrors and dummy rounds in a fake gun with the firing pin removed........the photo has the power to influence others to pose the same way, without the same "safety oprecautions" and it has no redeeming value whatsoever.
I spoke about this more in depth here.
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but you guys are making it sound like guns are unpredictable at best, they can go off without warning simply because the finger rests on the trigger. 3 lbs is not a whole lot, but it would still require a legitimate conscious trigger pull. a twitchy finger would not be enough. (oh, wait, we're talking about a glock, that does make a difference...)
Yeah, it's contrary to gun safety guidelines, but all of you who have ever fired a gun in your life know that it takes more than finger-to-trigger proximity to make the gun go off.
A mirror at 45 degrees. (I've seen spectacular photos of the bullet emerging from the barrel taken like this.)
A reloaded round with no primer or powder.
But let's face it, folks: It's probably a dangerous idiot with a suicidally gullible friend.
"Yeah, it's contrary to gun safety guidelines, but all of you who have ever fired a gun in your life know that it takes more than finger-to-trigger proximity to make the gun go off."
Yep. Those of us who have fired a gun in our lives also know if we keep our damned finger off the trigger until we are ready to shoot, we are much less likely to have a negligent discharge. This kind of idiot is the exact same kind of idiot that says "It just went off!" after he puts a bullet in somebody. There is no excuse, and mature gun owners should try to raise the bar of gun safety rather than accept idiocy for the sake of a nifty photo.
I have taken this exact same shot with a mirror!
Whether this guy did the same thing is another question.
A timed camera could also give this shot.
However, it's all too likely he was aiming at his buddy...
Using a dummy round or removing the firing pin would also be safe even if it's violating the rules.
Of course I know a few people whose fate I would not care about when they held the camera...
looks like a 40 cal 180gr flat point
Xavier Thoughts: Idiots with Guns #24
This may be your spookiest one yet!
I find it so hard to imagine what is going on in these folks heads.
Thanks for doing this blog it is an enjoyable read.
Of the series, the ones that feature a live round peeking out of the bore bother me the most. That cameraman may be only seconds away from a really bad day.
Looks like a 45. How do we know someone is behind the camera? Could this have been taken at a range with a timer? just for sake of argument ;')
Anonymous - Even so, he's about 3 lb's shy of needing a new camera, drywall, maybe replacing the neightbors cat....the neighbor?
Rules #2 and #4 spring to mind.
Perhaps it is a cheap camera Josh? Perhaps he is at the range or at least nothing or no one behind the camera? Can't honestly say that I can tell there is or isn't a live round in the chamber. I'm just saying without knowing the context of the picture I can't snap to judgment. I've seen pictures much like this taken in some gun magazines. In fact Josh, on your own site, in your Kimber report the 4th photo is taken from a precarious angle. Yeah, I know….it wasn’t loaded! ;’) Nice Kimber by the way. My only point is… perhaps the guy is an idiot…perhaps he was taking an “action shot” in a relatively safe manner (I.E.: At the range, with a camera with a timer on a tripod, and the gun had a dummy round.. I can’t really tell for 100% sure without context for the shot (camera that is)…
My point is not that this might be something other than what it appears to be. To the viewer, it is what it appears to be.
It appears to be a young man with a loaded Glock, aiming it at a camera that may be on a timer, on a remote, or more likely held by his friend judging from the nice angle looking down the barrel. Then, the young man's finger is on the trigger, deactivating the ONLY safety on a Glock. This violates at least three of the four rules.
Now, even if he is using smoke and mirrors and dummy rounds in a fake gun with the firing pin removed........the photo has the power to infl
uence others to pose the same way, without the same "safety oprecautions" and it has no redeeming value whatsoever.
I spoke about this more in depth here.
Not to play devil's advocate or anything, but you guys are making it sound like guns are unpredictable at best, they can go off without warning simply because the finger rests on the trigger. 3 lbs is not a whole lot, but it would still require a legitimate conscious trigger pull. a twitchy finger would not be enough. (oh, wait, we're talking about a glock, that does make a difference...)
Yeah, it's contrary to gun safety guidelines, but all of you who have ever fired a gun in your life know that it takes more than finger-to-trigger proximity to make the gun go off.
A mirror at 45 degrees. (I've seen spectacular photos of the bullet emerging from the barrel taken like this.)
A reloaded round with no primer or powder.
But let's face it, folks: It's probably a dangerous idiot with a suicidally gullible friend.
"Yeah, it's contrary to gun safety guidelines, but all of you who have ever fired a gun in your life know that it takes more than finger-to-trigger proximity to make the gun go off."
Yep. Those of us who have fired a gun in our lives also know if we keep our damned finger off the trigger until we are ready to shoot, we are much less likely to have a negligent discharge. This kind of idiot is the exact same kind of idiot that says "It just went off!" after he puts a bullet in somebody. There is no excuse, and mature gun owners should try to raise the bar of gun safety rather than accept idiocy for the sake of a nifty photo.
I have taken this exact same shot with a mirror!
Whether this guy did the same thing is another question.
A timed camera could also give this shot.
However, it's all too likely he was aiming at his buddy...
Using a dummy round or removing the firing pin would also be safe even if it's violating the rules.
Of course I know a few people whose fate I would not care about when they held the camera...
looks like a 40 cal 180gr flat point