bahlonikWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:32 amMore from bahlonik
Rating: -19apparentLee said:
Jim Shackleford: if you must post about everything, say something instead of nothing.
His dad was a doctor, you half-cocked idiot. Have some of that medicine you just proferred.Charles TrzcinkaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:40 amMore from Charles Trzcinka
Rating: +16This is truly an offensive column by a fanatic who simply should not be close to any decision making. The fact that he is, hurts everyone in Bloomington. I69 is a pathway to a stronger economy for Bloomington and the communities south of us. It will enable a very talented group of people, IU employees, to better connect with the world and will help those with low incomes --where transportation takes a large toll-- to seek better jobs. Ruff understands none of this. He only sees the environmental impact and has a "not in my back yard" attitude. I am very, very glad that we are surrounded by people who have different views, including the governor, legislator and every community south of us.
IndianaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:40 amMore from Indiana
Rating: +19It is interesting that Andy continues to ignore the reality of what INDOT told the MPO on October 7, 2011, i.e., �If I-69 is not included in the TIP, the current TIP will expire and funds for federal transportation projects in the BMCMPO's planning area will be cut off until the impasse is resolved.�
This is interesting because Andy never addresses the reality of this one sentence from INDOT. If Andy would address this one sentence somewhere, anywhere, in his La La Land fairy tale Guest Column then his Guest Column could be intelligently addressed. But how can someone really even address a Guest Column that ignores the reality of this sentence unless you simply address that the Guest Column continues to be totally ignore the sentence?
INDOT�s October 7th statement is real. Although Andy ignores it, what benefit does Bloomington gain by ignoring it?
So why does Andy, four months and 15 days later, continue to ignore the reality of what INDOT told him on October 7? Below I itemize seven I-69 related property transfers that have occurred in Monroe County that have appeared in the Herald Times. Should we ignore these transactions? Should we allow our politicians to ignore these transactions? Why doesn�t Andy define for us what the implementation of INDOT�s October 7th statement will mean for Bloomington and Monroe County? Andy needs to define for us the reality of the consequences of INDOT cutting off the federal transportation funds. Define the devastation on local road projects and the devastation on the Bloomington Transit, Rural Transit, and the IU Campus Bus systems.
What is interesting in all of this is that everyone knows that I-69 will eventually be built through Monroe County. We can almost hear, even here in Monroe County, the I-69 bulldozers rumbling in the distance plus the Herald Times� Property Transfers lists are filled with I-69 land purchases.
Just think of how much taxpayer money has already been wasted ignoring the reality of INDOT�s October 7th sentence. What a colossal waste of taxpayer money we are now experiencing. Only two questions remain. (1) When will the MPO do their 180-degree flip-flop and put I-69 back into the TIP? (2) How much taxpayer money will be wasted ignoring the reality of INDOT�s one sentence?
-- 7474 S. Breeden Road, Bloomington; Melba Cornwell and Leigh Siddiqi of Bloomington sold to the State of Indiana; $749,970; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 7400 S. Breeden St., Bloomington; Denny and Melba Cornwell of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $265,730; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 7474 S. Breeden Road, Bloomington; Melba Cornwell and Leigh Siddiqi of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $123,000; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 750 E. Chambers Pike, Bloomington; Patricia Smith of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $140,000; Oct. 21, 2011
-- 9992 W. Carter Road, Bloomington; Bruce and Bonnie Glasgow of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $7,274; July 27, 2011
-- 9992 W. Carter Road, Bloomington; Bruce and Bonnie Glasgow of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $379,332; July 27, 2011Alias EinsteinWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:41 amMore from Alias Einstein
Rating: -18apparentLee said:
Yet, you post and barely mention the topic of discussion, other than a play on words of the headline. hypocriteLee - see I did it too. neat.hfcWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:42 amMore from hfc
Rating: +17"Even work between Evansville and Crane is scattered. Only about four miles of road has actually been built."
That's right, Mr. Ruff, more than 70% of the new-terrain I-69 route, and over 45% of the total project, will be completed in less than 10 months. And I find it less than credible that you are not very aware of that. Blatantly dishonest comments like the one above by Mr. Ruff,, designed to deceive and mislead the public deserve a strong censure from the City Council, the BCMPO, and voters at the polls.
CitizenWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:49 amMore from Citizen
Rating: -17Interesting juxtaposition of Indiana's how-much-will-it-cost question with the property transfer data her provided.
Over a million and a half for just a few properties. How much will the total property acquisition cost? How much for just the new-terrain portion?
What is the per-mile construction cost for I-69?
What is the total I-69 cost and where is going to come from?DRMWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:50 amMore from DRM
Rating: -37hfc said:
Almost comical that anyone with an IQ above 50 would think that the quoted Ruff comment is rebutted by the yammerings offered by hfc, much less allow for hfc's denigration of Ruff. At best, it would appear that when in his usual froth hfc can not recognized differences in verb tense.CitizenWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:51 amMore from Citizen
Rating: -12The orchestrated I-69 cheerleaders can go ahead and run up a neg count on those questions. We know they're not interested in either asking them or getting answers.ResponseWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:58 amMore from Response
Rating: +9I, for one, will reserve judgement on this matter until I see who gets the most positive & negative votes on HTO.
IndianaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 10:01 amMore from Indiana
Interesting that even your questions assume that I-69 will be completed, contrary to this Guest Column.
bahlonikWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:32 amMore from bahlonik
Rating: -19apparentLee said:
Jim Shackleford: if you must post about everything, say something instead of nothing.
His dad was a doctor, you half-cocked idiot. Have some of that medicine you just proferred.Charles TrzcinkaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:40 amMore from Charles Trzcinka
Rating: +16This is truly an offensive column by a fanatic who simply should not be close to any decision making. The fact that he is, hurts everyone in Bloomington. I69 is a pathway to a stronger economy for Bloomington and the communities south of us. It will enable a very talented group of people, IU employees, to better connect with the world and will help those with low incomes --where transportation takes a large toll-- to seek better jobs. Ruff understands none of this. He only sees the environmental impact and has a "not in my back yard" attitude. I am very, very glad that we are surrounded by people who have different views, including the governor, legislator and every community south of us.
IndianaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:40 amMore from Indiana
Rating: +19It is interesting that Andy continues to ignore the reality of what INDOT told the MPO on October 7, 2011, i.e., �If I-69 is not included in the TIP, the current TIP will expire and funds for federal transportation projects in the BMCMPO's planning area will be cut off until the impasse is resolved.�
This is interesting because Andy never addresses the reality of this one sentence from INDOT. If Andy would address this one sentence somewhere, anywhere, in his La La Land fairy tale Guest Column then his Guest Column could be intelligently addressed. But how can someone really even address a Guest Column that ignores the reality of this sentence unless you simply address that the Guest Column continues to be totally ignore the sentence?
INDOT�s October 7th statement is real. Although Andy ignores it, what benefit does Bloomington gain by ignoring it?
So why does Andy, four months and 15 days later, continue to ignore the reality of what INDOT told him on October 7? Below I itemize seven I-69 related property transfers that have occurred in Monroe County that have appeared in the Herald Times. Should we ignore these transactions? Should we allow our politicians to ignore these transactions? Why doesn�t Andy define for us what the implementation of INDOT�s October 7th statement will mean for Bloomington and Monroe County? Andy needs to define for us the reality of the consequences of INDOT cutting off the federal transportation funds. Define the devastation on local road projects and the devastation on the Bloomington Transit, Rural Transit, and the IU Campus Bus systems.
What is interesting in all of this is that everyone knows that I-69 will eventually be built through Monroe County. We can almost hear, even here in Monroe County, the I-69 bulldozers rumbling in the distance plus the Herald Times� Property Transfers lists are filled with I-69 land purchases.
Just think of how much taxpayer money has already been wasted ignoring the reality of INDOT�s October 7th sentence. What a colossal waste of taxpayer money we are now experiencing. Only
 two questions remain. (1) When will the MPO do their 180-degree flip-flop and put I-69 back into the TIP? (2) How much taxpayer money will be wasted ignoring the reality of INDOT�s one sentence?
-- 7474 S. Breeden Road, Bloomington; Melba Cornwell and Leigh Siddiqi of Bloomington sold to the State of Indiana; $749,970; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 7400 S. Breeden St., Bloomington; Denny and Melba Cornwell of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $265,730; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 7474 S. Breeden Road, Bloomington; Melba Cornwell and Leigh Siddiqi of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $123,000; Nov. 28, 2011
-- 750 E. Chambers Pike, Bloomington; Patricia Smith of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $140,000; Oct. 21, 2011
-- 9992 W. Carter Road, Bloomington; Bruce and Bonnie Glasgow of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $7,274; July 27, 2011
-- 9992 W. Carter Road, Bloomington; Bruce and Bonnie Glasgow of Bloomington sold to the state of Indiana; $379,332; July 27, 2011Alias EinsteinWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:41 amMore from Alias Einstein
Rating: -18apparentLee said:
Yet, you post and barely mention the topic of discussion, other than a play on words of the headline. hypocriteLee - see I did it too. neat.hfcWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:42 amMore from hfc
Rating: +17"Even work between Evansville and Crane is scattered. Only about four miles of road has actually been built."
That's right, Mr. Ruff, more than 70% of the new-terrain I-69 route, and over 45% of the total project, will be completed in less than 10 months. And I find it less than credible that you are not very aware of that. Blatantly dishonest comments like the one above by Mr. Ruff,, designed to deceive and mislead the public deserve a strong censure from the City Council, the BCMPO, and voters at the polls.
CitizenWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:49 amMore from Citizen
Rating: -17Interesting juxtaposition of Indiana's how-much-will-it-cost question with the property transfer data her provided.
Over a million and a half for just a few properties. How much will the total property acquisition cost? How much for just the new-terrain portion?
What is the per-mile construction cost for I-69?
What is the total I-69 cost and where is going to come from?DRMWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:50 amMore from DRM
Rating: -37hfc said:
Almost comical that anyone with an IQ above 50 would think that the quoted Ruff comment is rebutted by the yammerings offered by hfc, much less allow for hfc's denigration of Ruff. At best, it would appear that when in his usual froth hfc can not recognized differences in verb tense.CitizenWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:51 amMore from Citizen
Rating: -12The orchestrated I-69 cheerleaders can go ahead and run up a neg count on those questions. We know they're not interested in either asking them or getting answers.ResponseWednesday, February 22, 2012: 9:58 amMore from Response
Rating: +9I, for one, will reserve judgement on this matter until I see who gets the most positive & negative votes on HTO.
IndianaWednesday, February 22, 2012: 10:01 amMore from Indiana
Interesting that even your questions assume that I-69 will be completed, contrary to this Guest Column.