Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 at 3:23am
Russell Westbrook Best PG in the NBA,Im not going to go back and forth about PER or any of that crap,he does things NO other PG in the league can do and there is no denying that.
If you feel differently that is on you,but RussWest is the best PG in the NBA and closing in as a top 5 player.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 4:30am
He is still too inconsistent. He is still too inconsistent. He is capable of dominance, but he has too many bad shooting nights and nights where he gets burned on defense for me to rank him ahead of Chris Paul and Stephen Curry. No other PG makes a greater impact when they are on the court than Westbrook, but he can hurt the team on his bad days. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 4:52am
Bball fan You have a point but the last sentence you made,makes the first sentence you made sort of irrelevant.
26,9,8 In the playoffs
Arguably might be the best two way player in.the league
Best rebounder at his position easily
And the biggest game changer in.the league,its really hard for me to give any PG in the league the nod over Russ
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:13am
Russ can be a game changer in Russ can be a game changer in a bad way too, though. He is shooting under 43% from the floor, with 4.6 TOs per game in the postseason. Russ has been dominant at times this postseason, but he also had a stretch of four games against Memphis where he missed 76 shots and turned the ball over 18 times. Also, Westbrook is not the best two-way player in the league. Like on offense, Westbrook makes tons of plays but can also just got burned. The point guard opposite him just put up a 21 point-16 assist-0 TO line. He isn't exactly locking anybody down.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:18am
RUDEBOY_ Registered User Joined: 04/09/2010 Posts: 8084 Points: 15936 Offline
What Happened you don't like What Happened you don't like Jeff Teague anymore? lol
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:00am
This is a reoccurring cycle.. This is a reoccurring cycle.. He was so hated two weeks ago.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:07am
A lot of people have a A lot of people have a tendency to forget the bad when players are doing good... (Roy Hibbert for exemple...)
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:01am
I would love having him on my I would love having him on my team..Westbrook is a great talent,he's a top 10 player in the league..Unstoppable in transition and the best rebounding guard in the nba...But you want your point guard to be the quarterback of the team and make others better....He's constantly in attack mode,in a way thats good and in another way its not..
Alot of former all star point guard often criticize his game,becuz he's not a traditional floor leader..He is taking the more shots than KD the 2nd best player in the league and takes bad shots when young players like Lamb,Adams,Jackson and Jones need touches..
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:04am
CP3 is still the best pg in CP3 is still the best pg in the game. Westbrook is not too far away from Paul, but Paul is better at running an offense
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:47am
Agreed. CP3 is the best. Agreed. CP3 is the best. Westbrook is 2nd on my list.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:14am
Paul may be better at running Paul may be better at running an offense but he's not a better player overall than Russ.
And yes Russ was hated two weeks ago but I never join the hate Russ campaign and anyone on here knows Ive been saying Russ the best PG in the NBA for the 2 years
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:32am
You used to say the same You used to say the same thing about Rondo. How did that turn out? Wasn't even close. Westbrook has a much better case but it's still Chris Paul.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:45am
CP3 is not better than CP3 is not better than Westbrook CP3 is strictly a P&R player like John Stockton. That's the only time he thrives if you disagree give me an example of him dominating his pg matchup without it that wasn't an Allstar game. When he goes to the bench the clippers run Doc's real offense with movement and off all screens.
Westbrook is the best PG in the NBA and top 3 player IMO I've been saying this for awhile now hence my user name. Besides LeBron James he is the most feared player to go against on BOTH ends of the court. With every negative thing said about Westbrook you can never say someone stopped him or you can play him cla certain way all you can do is hope he tries to beat you from 3 all night. You can also never accuse the guy of taking plays off. Just don't say CP3 is better because the media has been saying it torso many years come with facts because the guy is strictly a P&R player and has been his whole career and to me if you can only play in one system you're not the best. Don't believe me look at what Blake did when he wasn't stuck just running P&R when CP3 went out
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:51am
@RUDEBOY Lamb and Jones don't @RUDEBOY Lamb and Jones don't play and Jackson wouldn't either ifwestbrookdidnt get hurt that falls on Brooks. But the media says he takes more shots than KD which isn't true it only says it in the stat sheet because they don't calculate all the shots KD takes when getting fouled unless its an and1.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:02am
Don't just neg me be man Don't just neg me be man enough to debate what I'm saying. Don't be mad because I'm bashing your man crush with facts
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:08am
You're biased as hell and You're biased as hell and haven't made any good points. That's probably why you're getting negged despite someone with the exact same opinion (even though it's probably wrong) getting +5 in this same thread.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:58am
AwardedBaller Registered User Joined: 04/03/2012 Posts: 241 Points: 1206 Offline
Lmaooooo, I found it Lmaooooo, I found it extremely ironic you're using the term "man crush" when your profile picture and username are both affiliated with Russell Westbrook and you've made 3 consecutive posts on this thread defending him. Pot calling the kettle black? Login or register to post comments
Read my 1st paragraph and I Read my 1st paragraph and I like Westbrook but only player I'm biased towards is Kobe Bean... I will say it again CP3 is strictly a P&R player that's the only offense he thrives in so how can you be considered the best when you can only perform in 1 type of offense. If you disagree give examples where you've seen different
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:21am
Russ Man, I love this guy. I think he is underrated and is designated scape goat for OKC. If he something good happens, it's always about KD and how he's the MVP & the best scorer/player etc. And when something bad happens, no one can't seem to point a finger on KD or the whole team and instead uses the "Russell shoots too much for a point guard" excuse. I personally think this is just sad. It's a team game first and foremost so one player DOES not determine the game alone. But to keep things in perspective, he is a beast. Easily the best rebounding point guard and is the most athletic point guard that league has ever seen. Yes, even compared to the "MVP version" of Rose. Rose has crazy explosiveness and body control but Russ is just a freak of nature that can explode one or two feet with or without any momentum to the rim. I don't think he has fully healed from his knee problems that he suffered from the Rockets series but I would argue that it made him a better player. He added new to his game: passing & control of the tempo. He passes out of the left hand on the move like no one's business and is now more in control of what he wants to do and what he needs to do for his team. Two years ago, he wasn't going to pass ahead on the move and on the break nor will he control the tempo. Is he the best PG right now? Hard to say because CP manages the game better, Mike Conley controls the tempo better (than anybody), Lillard is easily the most cold blooded, Curry is lights out from anywhere, Wall is becoming a two way player (I think he has the chance to be the best two way player out of the group and best PG for years to come) and Rondo is still coming back from an injury but he has showed signs that he will back to full strength next season and is a triple double threat each game. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:45am
I don't think Russ is I don't think Russ is athletic as prime Derrick Rose. Rose doesn't attack downhill as often, but he elevated off of two feet much better. Rose could elevate and finish at the rim withour running full speed the way Westbrook does. Rose could navigate through traffic under better control than Russ, too. Rose just plays a more measured game than Westbrook. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:01am
Rose was more explosive but Rose was more explosive but Westbrook is the better overall athlete
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:32am
parker I'd take tony parker over both of them.
Posted on: Sun, 05/11/2014 - 3:05am
Westbrook would kill Parker, Westbrook would kill Parker, both on offense and defense. In offense, Westbrook would just take it to the rack and use his strength to finish against TP. Parker doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard Westbrook.
On defense, Parker will get his buckets, but Westbrook will make him work for every one of it. H ewill fight through screens and play rough on him. Parker had his way with Lillard and Calderon.... But those guys CAN'T play a lick of D! Parker will have his work cut off by Russ and CP3.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:05am
26, 9, and 8 is JORDANESQUE. 26, 9, and 8 is JORDANESQUE. The best "point guard" in the league is Chris Paul. Although, Westbrook might be the best overall GUARD in the league.
Westbrook might be the third best player in the league right now behind LeBron/Durant. My current top five would consist of those three along with Chris Paul, and probably Blake Griffin as my fifth guy. I wonder if Kevin Durant might be more willing to defer at times? He already has the scoring titles. He already has an MVP award. Now he needs the ring. If that means letting Westbrook do his thing, then KD might do that.
If the Thunder end up winning the title this year, nobody will put an asterisk next to Kevin Durant's MVP award because Westbrook took more shots than Durant in some games. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:08am
In my mock draft last year, I In my mock draft last year, I had the Thunder taking MCW. Just made too much sense to me. Get a bigger guard who can create offense, pass, and be the floor leader. Then put Russ off the ball and let him attack and score. Unfortunately, MCW went one pick ahead of the Thunder. ... the Thunder did well though with Steven Adams. Adams is a good athlete and is their future enforcer in the making. Durant, Russ, Reggie, Ibaka, and Steven Adams should get 3 or 4 rings when all is said and done.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 9:41am
Westbrook is the most Westbrook is the most volatile Point Guard in the league. He's the most explosive point guard in the league. But until he adopts the cerebral aspect and improves the floor game, He's the 2nd best PG in the league.
Guys act like that is a major disrespect, in a league where point guard play is as good as its ever been and as important as its ever been, Westbrook is a stud. But this is also a day and age of analytics, and the most inefficient shot in the game is a mid range j. He's played really well in the Clipper series, but lets not forget he averaged 25 ppg on 23 shots, 8/5 assist/turnover ratio in the Memphis series. That's not "Best Point Guard in the league" kind of production.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 9:59am
He could be the most He could be the most explosive 6'3 scoring guard since David Thompson.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 2:54pm
Westbrook's decision making Westbrook's decision making and shot selection can be awful. Defensively, he can definitely get after it, but he gambles and turns his head on the ball a lot. His size and athelticism at his position is insane and he's supremely talented. There's nothing he can't do and he fills a stat sheet. He's competitive and has that mean streak you love. However, I don't trust the way he thinks the game, which is sad. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:00pm
His bball IQ just isn't all His bball IQ just isn't all that high...which is why I question how good he will be when he gets past the age where he is physically dominant. He doesn't have the cerebral part of playing point guard down. It's impressive that he is as good as he is, and I would take him on my team any day, but that doesn't mean hes the best PG in the league.
Posted on: Thu, 05/22/2014 - 1:16pm
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 at 3:23am
Russell Westbrook Best PG in the NBA,Im not going to go back and forth about PER or any of that crap,he does things NO other PG in the league can do and there is no denying that.
If you feel differently that is on you,but RussWest is the best PG in the NBA and closing in as a top 5 player.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 4:30am
He is still too inconsistent. He is still too inconsistent. He is capable of dominance, but he has too many bad shooting nights and nights where he gets burned on defense for me to rank him ahead of Chris Paul and Stephen Curry. No other PG makes a greater impact when they are on the court than Westbrook, but he can hurt the team on his bad days. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 4:52am
Bball fan You have a point but the last sentence you made,makes the first sentence you made sort of irrelevant.
26,9,8 In the playoffs
Arguably might be the best two way player in.the league
Best rebounder at his position easily
And the biggest game changer in.the league,its really hard for me to give any PG in the league the nod over Russ
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:13am
Russ can be a game changer in Russ can be a game changer in a bad way too, though. He is shooting under 43% from the floor, with 4.6 TOs per game in the postseason. Russ has been dominant at times this postseason, but he also had a stretch of four games against Memphis where he missed 76 shots and turned the ball over 18 times. Also, Westbrook is not the best two-way player in the league. Like on offense, Westbrook makes tons of plays but can also just got burned. The point guard opposite him just put up a 21 point-16 assist-0 TO line. He isn't exactly locking anybody down.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:18am
RUDEBOY_ Registered User Joined: 04/09/2010 Posts: 8084 Points: 15936 Offline
What Happened you don't like What Happened you don't like Jeff Teague anymore? lol
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:00am
This is a reoccurring cycle.. This is a reoccurring cycle.. He was so hated two weeks ago.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:07am
A lot of people have a A lot of people have a tendency to forget the bad when players are doing good... (Roy Hibbert for exemple...)
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:01am
I would love having him on my I would love having him on my team..Westbrook is a great talent,he's a top 10 player in the league..Unstoppable in transition and the best rebounding guard in the nba...But you want your point guard to be the quarterback of the team and make others better....He's constantly in attack mode,in a way thats good and in another way its not..
Alot of former all star point guard often criticize his game,becuz he's not a traditional floor leader..He is taking the more shots than KD the 2nd best player in the league and takes bad shots when young players like Lamb,Adams,Jackson and Jones need touches..
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:04am
CP3 is still the best pg in CP3 is still the best pg in the game. Westbrook is not too far away from Paul, but Paul is better at running an offense
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 10:47am
Agreed. CP3 is the best. Agreed. CP3 is the best. Westbrook is 2nd on my list.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:14am
Paul may be better at running Paul may be better at running an offense but he's not a better player overall than Russ.
And yes Russ was hated two weeks ago but I never join the hate Russ campaign and anyone on here knows Ive been saying Russ the best PG in the NBA for the 2 years
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:32am
You used to say the same You used to say the same thing about Rondo. How did that turn out? Wasn't even close. Westbrook has a much better case but it's still Chris Paul.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:45am
CP3 is not better than CP3 is not better than Westbrook CP3 is strictly a P&R player like John Stockton. That's the only time he thrives if you disagree give me an example of him dominating his pg matchup without it that wasn't an Allstar game. When he goes to the bench the clippers run Doc's real offense with movement and off all screens.
Westbrook is the best PG in the NBA and top 3 player IMO I've been saying this for awhile now hence my user name. Besides LeBron James he is the most feared player to go against on BOTH ends of the court. With every negative thing said about Westbrook you can never say someone stopped him or you can play him cla certain way all you can do is hope he tries to beat you from 3 all night. You can also never accuse the guy of taking plays off. Just don't say CP3 is better because the media has been saying it torso many years come with facts because the guy is strictly a P&R player and has been his whole career and to me if you can only play in one system you're not the best. Don't believe me look at what Blake did when he wasn't stuck just running P&R when CP3 went out
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 5:51am
@RUDEBOY Lamb and Jones don't @RUDEBOY Lamb and Jones don't play and Jackson wouldn't either ifwestbrookdidnt get hurt that falls on Brooks. But the media says he takes more shots than KD which isn't true it only says it in the stat sheet because they don't calculate all the shots KD takes when getting fouled unless its an and1.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:02am
Don't just neg me be man Don't just neg me be man enough to debate what I'm saying. Don't be mad because I'm bashing your man crush with facts
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:08am
You're biased as hell and You're biased as hell and haven't made any good points. That's probably why you're getting negged despite someone with the exact same opinion (even though it's probably wrong) getting +5 in this same thread.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 11:58am
AwardedBaller Registered User Joined: 04/03/2012 Posts: 241 Points: 1206 Offline
Lmaooooo, I found it Lmaooooo, I found it extremely ironic you're using the term "man crush" when your profile picture and username are both affiliated with Russell Westbrook and you've made 3 consecutive posts on this thread defending him. Pot calling the kettle black? Login or register to post comments
Read my 1st paragraph and I Read my 1st paragraph and I like Westbrook but only player I'm biased towards is Kobe Bean... I will say it again CP3 is strictly a P&R player that's the only offense he thrives in so how can you be considered the best when you can only perform in 1 type of off
ense. If you disagree give examples where you've seen different
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:21am
Russ Man, I love this guy. I think he is underrated and is designated scape goat for OKC. If he something good happens, it's always about KD and how he's the MVP & the best scorer/player etc. And when something bad happens, no one can't seem to point a finger on KD or the whole team and instead uses the "Russell shoots too much for a point guard" excuse. I personally think this is just sad. It's a team game first and foremost so one player DOES not determine the game alone. But to keep things in perspective, he is a beast. Easily the best rebounding point guard and is the most athletic point guard that league has ever seen. Yes, even compared to the "MVP version" of Rose. Rose has crazy explosiveness and body control but Russ is just a freak of nature that can explode one or two feet with or without any momentum to the rim. I don't think he has fully healed from his knee problems that he suffered from the Rockets series but I would argue that it made him a better player. He added new to his game: passing & control of the tempo. He passes out of the left hand on the move like no one's business and is now more in control of what he wants to do and what he needs to do for his team. Two years ago, he wasn't going to pass ahead on the move and on the break nor will he control the tempo. Is he the best PG right now? Hard to say because CP manages the game better, Mike Conley controls the tempo better (than anybody), Lillard is easily the most cold blooded, Curry is lights out from anywhere, Wall is becoming a two way player (I think he has the chance to be the best two way player out of the group and best PG for years to come) and Rondo is still coming back from an injury but he has showed signs that he will back to full strength next season and is a triple double threat each game. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 6:45am
I don't think Russ is I don't think Russ is athletic as prime Derrick Rose. Rose doesn't attack downhill as often, but he elevated off of two feet much better. Rose could elevate and finish at the rim withour running full speed the way Westbrook does. Rose could navigate through traffic under better control than Russ, too. Rose just plays a more measured game than Westbrook. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:01am
Rose was more explosive but Rose was more explosive but Westbrook is the better overall athlete
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:32am
parker I'd take tony parker over both of them.
Posted on: Sun, 05/11/2014 - 3:05am
Westbrook would kill Parker, Westbrook would kill Parker, both on offense and defense. In offense, Westbrook would just take it to the rack and use his strength to finish against TP. Parker doesn't have the lateral quickness to guard Westbrook.
On defense, Parker will get his buckets, but Westbrook will make him work for every one of it. H ewill fight through screens and play rough on him. Parker had his way with Lillard and Calderon.... But those guys CAN'T play a lick of D! Parker will have his work cut off by Russ and CP3.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:05am
26, 9, and 8 is JORDANESQUE. 26, 9, and 8 is JORDANESQUE. The best "point guard" in the league is Chris Paul. Although, Westbrook might be the best overall GUARD in the league.
Westbrook might be the third best player in the league right now behind LeBron/Durant. My current top five would consist of those three along with Chris Paul, and probably Blake Griffin as my fifth guy. I wonder if Kevin Durant might be more willing to defer at times? He already has the scoring titles. He already has an MVP award. Now he needs the ring. If that means letting Westbrook do his thing, then KD might do that.
If the Thunder end up winning the title this year, nobody will put an asterisk next to Kevin Durant's MVP award because Westbrook took more shots than Durant in some games. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 8:08am
In my mock draft last year, I In my mock draft last year, I had the Thunder taking MCW. Just made too much sense to me. Get a bigger guard who can create offense, pass, and be the floor leader. Then put Russ off the ball and let him attack and score. Unfortunately, MCW went one pick ahead of the Thunder. ... the Thunder did well though with Steven Adams. Adams is a good athlete and is their future enforcer in the making. Durant, Russ, Reggie, Ibaka, and Steven Adams should get 3 or 4 rings when all is said and done.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 9:41am
Westbrook is the most Westbrook is the most volatile Point Guard in the league. He's the most explosive point guard in the league. But until he adopts the cerebral aspect and improves the floor game, He's the 2nd best PG in the league.
Guys act like that is a major disrespect, in a league where point guard play is as good as its ever been and as important as its ever been, Westbrook is a stud. But this is also a day and age of analytics, and the most inefficient shot in the game is a mid range j. He's played really well in the Clipper series, but lets not forget he averaged 25 ppg on 23 shots, 8/5 assist/turnover ratio in the Memphis series. That's not "Best Point Guard in the league" kind of production.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 9:59am
He could be the most He could be the most explosive 6'3 scoring guard since David Thompson.
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 2:54pm
Westbrook's decision making Westbrook's decision making and shot selection can be awful. Defensively, he can definitely get after it, but he gambles and turns his head on the ball a lot. His size and athelticism at his position is insane and he's supremely talented. There's nothing he can't do and he fills a stat sheet. He's competitive and has that mean streak you love. However, I don't trust the way he thinks the game, which is sad. Login or register to post comments
Posted on: Sat, 05/10/2014 - 7:00pm
His bball IQ just isn't all His bball IQ just isn't all that high...which is why I question how good he will be when he gets past the age where he is physically dominant. He doesn't have the cerebral part of playing point guard down. It's impressive that he is as good as he is, and I would take him on my team any day, but that doesn't mean hes the best PG in the league.
Posted on: Thu, 05/22/2014 - 1:16pm