You 'help' wasn't asked for. I've read both of those posts before and I call bullsh*t. Brass tax, HMX is in bed with MS. Taking track charting from one system to the next isn't some arduous task. We like to be told that because we, the consumer, are ignorant and take what we're told at face value without asking questions. Money talks Bullsh*t floats. I really feel bad for the Wii owners. They're always getting the shaft 6"-8" deep.
Anybody else find it ironic that he has "IQ" in his name and yet oddly appropriate that there are no numbers?
On Subject: Yes, because lying and bull****ing nearly half the customer base is such a wise business move.
Last edited by Jixzer; 03-09-2010 at 12:03 PM.
RB and its DLC was one of the primary reasons for getting the PS3 in the first place (I upgraded from the PS2 version), but I have very little interest in getting a 360. I'd be hesistant even if I wasn't so dug in on the PS3 with DLC.
As for RBN porting, I know there's a bit of work to convert and test the songs for the PS3/Wii, so there's no possible way to keep up with the releases on the 360. I wish we had a little more info on just which songs will be transferred though. I mean, I'm confident that the A-list artists will be transferred, but what about the lesser-known ones? We assume that popularity will be the determining factor on those, but we don't really know.
03-09-2010 12:19 PM
If the 360's RRoD problem wasn't so common, I would've gone 360 for music gaming back in 2007 since the Wii didn't have anything but GHIII with no DLC at the time.
Ironic, huh? Nobody seems to find it ironic but you. ( I didn't register here to bore people with my intelligence quotient.)
And yes, corprations and businesses pull the wool over the consumer's eyes every day for the almighty dollar. You apparently have your eyes covered too. As for the "some people's kids" remark, what's supposed to mean Junior? I'm guessing that you think everyone out here in 'forum land' is a "kid" except you, huh? On a lighter note, I registered at your website. See ya around.
Last edited by <?>x_IQ_x; 03-09-2010 at 07:40 PM.
You honestly don't understand why you're being addressed as a kid? It's because you are lashing out, calling people liars without a shred of evidence.
And yes, corprations and businesses pull the wool over the consumer's eyes every day for the almighty dollar.
But in this case, you are specifically insinuating that Harmonix (or specifically, HMXHenry, a developer from Harmonix) is being dishonest. Prove it. Give us numbers. Give us documentations. Show us that 1. HMX is "pulling the wool over the consumer's eyes" and 2. that they are doing this specifically in regards to why the RBN is setup in the way that it is for the PS3 and the Wii.
Just because some corporations may be being dishonest with their customers, it doesn't mean that all corporations are doing the same, at all times.
See, adults don't go around accusing people of wrongdoing unless they got something to back it up. On the other hand, children with entitlement issues will go around pretending to be victims and demonizing others whenever circumstances surrounding them isn't what they want. Now, unless you give us some sort of definite, undeniable proof that (as you say) "HMX is in bed with MS" and that money was exchanged specifically for RBN in a way that disadvantages Sony and Nintendo, you are indeed acting like a child.
I'm going to predict right now that you are going to try to weasel your way out of a straight answer.
i find it absolutely laughable that people figure that HMX owe them ANYTHING because they bought their product. Call it BS if you want, but how would YOU like it if YOUR tool was used without YOU getting any credit or profit by a rival company/employee? Put it in THAT perspective before saying "you're done with HMX if we don't get it all" THAT statement is complete and total BS. I'm sure Microsoft wants other companies getting the benefits of their tool that the 360 Users have TO PAY FOR.
Wow, I guess opinions aren't allowed on this forum. Just because "you" don't like what I have to say, that makes me a "kid"? Give me a f'n break. The whole name calling thing seems a bit childish, doesn't it bub? Oh, wait. I forgot. The "in" thing now is to slam people from behind a computer screen and impose upon others what they think is right and scold those who don't hold the same opinion. As for weaseling my way out of a straight answer, any answer I give isn't going to be "straight enough" for you. So I tell ya what. You tell me how I should answer and I'll type what ever your little heart desires. Good enough? (Just for the record, the list of MS paid exclusives and paid timed releases are aplenty. You know that to be true. Remember the release of RB2?)
On to the next self righteous internet enforcer:
I never said HMX owes me, much less anybody, anything. Get your sh*t straight before you get your dander up and yell at people. Look, all I was doing was agreeing with the person who posted before me, followed by my $.02 (opinion). Whether you agree with it or not, I could give 2 sh*ts. I'm done with thread. You guys have fun with your forum trolling.
(Sounds like I touched a nerve with a couple of 360 fanboys here.)
03-10-2010 12:03 AM
Wow, I guess opinions aren't allowed on this forum.
So basically, you are saying, "But... but it's a my opinions! I can say whateva I wanna sayyyyy!!"
Please don't even try to cowardly hide behind your so-called "opinions." Your "opinions" are meaningless unless you have solid facts to back them up. You are accusing HMX of lying. Man up and provide your evidence.
Just because "you" don't like what I have to say, that makes me a "kid"?
No. I've stated exactly what makes you seem like a "kid." Apparently I should add "learning to read" to that definition.
As for weaseling my way out of a straight answer, any answer I give isn't going to be "straight enough" for you. So I tell ya what. You tell me how I should answer and I'll type what ever your little heart desires. Good enough?
Again, I've already told you exactly what I'm looking for. Hint: It has to do with 1. accusing HMX of intentional deceiving the public in regards to how RBN works, and 2. how Microsoft has supposedly paid HMX off to keep Sony and Nintendo from being treated in the same way. Stop stalling.
(Just for the record, the list of MS paid exclusives and paid timed releases are aplenty. You know that to be true. Remember the release of RB2?)
What do MS's past paid exclusives and the release of RB2 even remotely have to do with Rock Band Network? Or are you generalizing everything like you did in your initial post? Right now we are discussing specifically about your accusations about how HMX is deceiving everyone about RBN, and about how Microsoft is paying off HMX in regards to RBN.
Spend less time trying to be clever and more time on explaining your accusations. Or are you going to continue to stall for an answer?
it's funny that you call me a fanboy and enforcer when all i did was give you the reason as to why it should not all be going to Sony/Wii. You seem to have a problem with the facts, and when someone gives you a legitimate reason you hide behind opinions and then proceed to trash HMX.
As for this whole "fanboy" crap. I don't have a favorite in this whole Sony/MS thing because in all honesty i have both systems and enjoy them both. So ya, i gave you a very good example and then called me a tough guy, way to go.
You 'help' wasn't asked for. I've read both of those posts before and I call bullsh*t. Brass tax, HMX is in bed with MS. Taking track charting from one system to the next isn't some arduous task. We like to be told that because we, the consumer, are ignorant and take what we're told at face value without asking questions. Money talks Bullsh*t floats. I really feel bad for the Wii owners. They're always getting the shaft 6"-8" deep.
Anybody else find it ironic that he has "IQ" in his name and yet oddly appropriate that there are no numbers?
On Subject: Yes, because lying and bull****ing nearly half the customer base is such a wise business move.
Last edited by Jixzer; 03-09-2010 at 12:03 PM.
RB and its DLC was one of the primary reasons for getting the PS3 in the first place (I upgraded from the PS2 version), but I have very little interest in getting a 360. I'd be hesistant even if I wasn't so dug in on the PS3 with DLC.
As for RBN porting, I know there's a bit of work to convert and test the songs for the PS3/Wii, so there's no possible way to keep up with the releases on the 360. I wish we had a little more info on just which songs will be transferred though. I mean, I'm confident that the A-list artists will be transferred, but what about the lesser-known ones? We assume that popularity will be the determining factor on those, but we don't really know.
03-09-2010 12:19 PM
If the 360's RRoD problem wasn't so common, I would've gone 360 for music gaming back in 2007 since the Wii didn't have anything but GHIII with no DLC at the time.
Ironic, huh? Nobody seems to find it ironic but you. ( I didn't register here to bore people with my intelligence quotient.)
And yes, corprations and businesses pull the wool over the consumer's eyes every day for the almighty dollar. You apparently have your eyes covered too. As for the "some people's kids" remark, what's supposed to mean Junior? I'm guessing that you think everyone out here in 'forum land' is a "kid" except you, huh? On a lighter note, I registered at your website. See ya around.
Last edited by <?>x_IQ_x; 03-09-2010 at 07:40 PM.
You honestly don't understand why you're being addressed as a kid? It's because you are lashing out, calling people liars without a shred of evidence.
And yes, corprations and businesses pull the wool over the consumer's eyes every day for the almighty dollar.
But in this case, you are specifically insinuating that Harmonix (or specifically, HMXHenry, a developer from Harmonix) is being dishonest. Prove it. Give us numbers. Give us documentations. Show us that 1. HMX is "pulling the wool over the consumer's eyes" and 2. that they are doing this specifically in regards to why the RBN is setup in the way that it is for the PS3 and the Wii.
Just because some corporations may be being dishonest with their customers, it doesn't mean that all corporations are doing the same, at all times.
See, adults don't go around accusing people of wrongdoing unless they got something to back it up. On the other hand, children with entitlement issues will go around pretending to be victims and demonizing others whenever circumstances surrounding them isn't what they want. Now, unless you give us some sort of definite, undeniable proof that (as you say) "HMX is in bed with MS" and that money was exchanged specifically for RBN in a way that disadvantages Sony and Nintendo, you are indeed acting like a child.
I'm going to predict right now that you are going to try to weasel your way out of a straight answer.
i find it absolutely laughable that people figure that HMX owe them ANYTHING because they bought their product. Call it BS if you want, but how would YOU like it if YOUR tool was used without YOU getting any credit or profit 
by a rival company/employee? Put it in THAT perspective before saying "you're done with HMX if we don't get it all" THAT statement is complete and total BS. I'm sure Microsoft wants other companies getting the benefits of their tool that the 360 Users have TO PAY FOR.
Wow, I guess opinions aren't allowed on this forum. Just because "you" don't like what I have to say, that makes me a "kid"? Give me a f'n break. The whole name calling thing seems a bit childish, doesn't it bub? Oh, wait. I forgot. The "in" thing now is to slam people from behind a computer screen and impose upon others what they think is right and scold those who don't hold the same opinion. As for weaseling my way out of a straight answer, any answer I give isn't going to be "straight enough" for you. So I tell ya what. You tell me how I should answer and I'll type what ever your little heart desires. Good enough? (Just for the record, the list of MS paid exclusives and paid timed releases are aplenty. You know that to be true. Remember the release of RB2?)
On to the next self righteous internet enforcer:
I never said HMX owes me, much less anybody, anything. Get your sh*t straight before you get your dander up and yell at people. Look, all I was doing was agreeing with the person who posted before me, followed by my $.02 (opinion). Whether you agree with it or not, I could give 2 sh*ts. I'm done with thread. You guys have fun with your forum trolling.
(Sounds like I touched a nerve with a couple of 360 fanboys here.)
03-10-2010 12:03 AM
Wow, I guess opinions aren't allowed on this forum.
So basically, you are saying, "But... but it's a my opinions! I can say whateva I wanna sayyyyy!!"
Please don't even try to cowardly hide behind your so-called "opinions." Your "opinions" are meaningless unless you have solid facts to back them up. You are accusing HMX of lying. Man up and provide your evidence.
Just because "you" don't like what I have to say, that makes me a "kid"?
No. I've stated exactly what makes you seem like a "kid." Apparently I should add "learning to read" to that definition.
As for weaseling my way out of a straight answer, any answer I give isn't going to be "straight enough" for you. So I tell ya what. You tell me how I should answer and I'll type what ever your little heart desires. Good enough?
Again, I've already told you exactly what I'm looking for. Hint: It has to do with 1. accusing HMX of intentional deceiving the public in regards to how RBN works, and 2. how Microsoft has supposedly paid HMX off to keep Sony and Nintendo from being treated in the same way. Stop stalling.
(Just for the record, the list of MS paid exclusives and paid timed releases are aplenty. You know that to be true. Remember the release of RB2?)
What do MS's past paid exclusives and the release of RB2 even remotely have to do with Rock Band Network? Or are you generalizing everything like you did in your initial post? Right now we are discussing specifically about your accusations about how HMX is deceiving everyone about RBN, and about how Microsoft is paying off HMX in regards to RBN.
Spend less time trying to be clever and more time on explaining your accusations. Or are you going to continue to stall for an answer?
it's funny that you call me a fanboy and enforcer when all i did was give you the reason as to why it should not all be going to Sony/Wii. You seem to have a problem with the facts, and when someone gives you a legitimate reason you hide behind opinions and then proceed to trash HMX.
As for this whole "fanboy" crap. I don't have a favorite in this whole Sony/MS thing because in all honesty i have both systems and enjoy them both. So ya, i gave you a very good example and then called me a tough guy, way to go.