Is the 'Srebrenica Massacre' equivalent too The Holocaust? | Yahoo Answers
I was told that an article I presented, showing lack of consistency in claims by 'eyewitnesses' and news reports, is 'BS' and is compared too 'Holocaust denial.' I'd like to know, do you you agree or disagree that this is like denying The Holocaust, if so, why or why not? Also, do you... show more I was told that an article I presented, showing lack of consistency in claims by 'eyewitnesses' and news reports, is 'BS' and is compared too 'Holocaust denial.' I'd like to know, do you you agree or disagree that this is like denying The Holocaust, if so, why or why not? Also, do you support the sentences against those claimed guilty of genocide?
Here's the article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18077
Update: El: I have read the notes, just not the direct links. I am here to see different opinions on the subject though. Do you agree that it's equivalent too 'Holocaust denial' even though official news sources contradict themselves? etc. Thanks for answering.
Update 2: pro_sassenheime: Thanks for your answer. My reply to the other fellow who said it was 'BS', was that it's 'Hardly' comparable to denying the Holocaust - it's just separating fact from fiction - given all available data.
Update 3: Lana: May you please answer my other questions as well? thank you.
Update 4: On the first day of the attacks, which started in the ethnically-divided city of Kosovska Mitrovica but soon spread to several other locales, personnel of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) abandoned offices in the cities of Gnjilane, Prizren and Pec and one UN representative,... show more On the first day of the attacks, which started in the ethnically-divided city of Kosovska Mitrovica but soon spread to several other locales, personnel of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) abandoned offices in the cities of Gnjilane, Prizren and Pec and one UN representative, alluding to the anti-Jewish rampage in Nazi Germany in 1938, said 'Kristallnacht is under way in Kosovo. What is happening in Kosovo must unfortunately be described as a pogrom against Serbs: churches are on fire and people are being attacked for no other reason than their ethnic background.'
Update 5: aeiou_i: Thanks for your input. While I'm not a Christian, I do stand by Truth and Justice over cover-ups, lack of consistency in official stories, etc. You have a good chance of getting BA (all five stars as well!).
Update 6: aeiou_i: I think Lana has just been severely misinformed, or gets her data from a very untrustworthy source. I don't see how scapegoating one group of people is going to resolve any conflicts.
Update 7: Thanks for your answer Doug.
Update 8: Thanks Spidey!
Update 9: Rosy Pearl: if you have a netflix account, I recommend you watch 'God on Trial', it's a great movie.
Best Answer: There was no genocide in Srebrenica. Thank you for your question :)
The Hague proclamation of Srebrenica Genocide was a political move at the Sacrifice Altar of Invincibility, where the truth is being decapitated by the victor. Those who manipulated the media and made possible the Srebrenica event, are trying to wash their bloody hands, by calling a war crime to be genocide, in an ambient they made possible for it to happen. To add to that, there were war crimes on both sides of Srebrenica, starting with Naser Oric who "took no prisoners" and was hiding in the demilitarized zone under the Dutch UN force. The Serbs, reacted to that provocation, and made a political mistake.
Those who call "genocide deniers" people who search for the truth, are the scum of our civilization. The basic Christian values are: Truth and Justice. The Truth was violated in Srebrenica by the Western Media and Justice was stabbed by the NATO flag.
The number of 8,000 Muslims killed was a first hand estimation by the Red Cross which leaned on the number of missing people. Many of these missing people appeared later in Tuzla and other places of Bosnia.
2000 bodies were found in the area. Of these, less than 500 bodies were found to have been killed after being caught. You can imagine how willing were some diggers to find as many bodies as possible.
Bosnian Serbs were not wiping every single Bosnian Muslim male along their offensive in Srebrenica.
It is a fact that Serbs changed the location of some of the bodies. That is still not close to 8000.
Alija Izetbegovic, radical Islamist, leader of the SDA party and political leader of the Bosnian Muslims, told on his dying bed to Bernard Kouchner and Richard Holbrooke that Clinton told him that NATO needed a 5,000 victim event in order to jump in against the Serbs. On one occasion he told that there was no genocide in Srebrenica. He denied telling that but there were too many witnesses who heard the opposite. Alija Izetbegovic is known for his nature of having swung back and forth his claims.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335528.shtml
The investigation following with the prosecution of the case leaves a lot to desire, because it was biased and politically colored, aimed against Serbs and Serbia.
Bosnian Serbs seek revenge for what Naser Oric was doing to the surrounding Serbs. They also need to displace their military forces which have been focused around Srebrenica for too long.
Bosnian Serbs surround Srebrenica, allowing women and children (boys under 15) to leave the area. Muslim men who are left in Srebrenica, not all of them are killed - those who were not part of the Muslim military forces are not killed.
The Muslim army, with no command since Naser Oric left much earlier, starts running toward Tuzla. The manhunt was bloody...
Which part of the story here is genocide compared to the holocaust in Germany? Why was Naser Oric freed at Hague? Why did Hague accuse even the president of Serbia for what happened in Srebrenica? Why was the Ruder Fin, a (Jewish) media house, contracted to compare the Serbs with Germans? What responsibility can we attribute to those who created the Srebrenica Genocide:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mstreamm?feature=mhw4#p/f/54/jkHp_0SxTQQ
We know that Tadic is an American player, but we also know that Noam Chomsky stated that there was no genocide in Srebrenica.
http://srebrenicagenocide7111995.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/noam-chomsky-is-srebrenica-genocide-denier/
"Yes,it is. Ratko Mladić is somewhere out there, Serbians keep him safe. Actually, they are guilty for many many genocides and they always deny it. Like on Croatia, they came into a city,killed all of the people, and they act like they didn't though there are witness and there are video tapes. Law is great."
Lana is a "classic Croat". She has no idea what happened in Croatia, because she was not even born back then, and she is full of blind hatred. I participated in the war in Croatia. Even more, I was in Vukovar, since Lana is most probably referring to Vukovar. Why doesn't Lana explain us how come the Croat Serbs who were once 22% are 4% today in Croatia, and how come they were legal constitutive and are now legal minority? Ask her why do Croats (and Muslims) build their national identity by hatred upon Serbs - is it because they are revising historical facts, calling themselves victims of the "officially guilty" Serbs?
The "Oluja" case upon which both sides accused each other of genocide, might finally separate the butcher from the victim...
pro_sass
Why don't we ask the Dutch how come a Bosnian Muslim battalion was hiding in the demilitarized zone and jumping around into Serb villages?
"It also ruled that Serbia failed to take all measures within its power to prevent the genocide,..."
lolololololollolololllolllololol
I wonder what could a neutral court rule upon Germany, Iran and USA concerning Bosnia:
Love, Truth and Justice are universal values - universal spiritual language of a large society such is our civilization which you and me are part of, despite our cultural background. I wanted to depict how Evil is not allowing the Truth to be heard and Justice to be claimed by an interest group. People who practice this Evil are Evil people, their society is Evil, their future is the path of Evil, their children will learn from books of Evil. Their seed is the seed of Evil. Lana will carry the seed of Evil if she does not understand what i am saying, despite how cute she may look.
Source(s): http://srebrenica-project.com/
http://www.dverisrpske.com/casopis.php?p=174288&b=174287
I agree. This was a terrible thing and it hasn't been brought to people's attention in the way that it should have been. We need to work together to stop such tragedies from occurring and escalating! It sickens me to think that such things are still happening - don't we, as humans, know better? Why is it so easy for us to be callous and bury our humanity? It begins with each of us - maybe there is something more you can do to make the planet better? But, Maradona Jr., I know you are just posting this question because you are offended (?) someone else thought it might be a good idea to take a moment to "pray" over a more recent, though lesser, tragedy - the one that happened at Dawson College in Montréal just September 13th, 2006. Get a life and show some compassion!
The Srebrenica Massacre, also known as Srebrenica Genocide, was the July 1995 killing of an estimated 8,000 Bosniak men and boys, in the region of Srebrenica in Bosnia and Herzegovina by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladić during the Bosnian War. In addition to the Army of Republika Srpska, a paramilitary unit from Serbia known as the "Scorpions" participated in the massacre.
The Srebrenica massacre is the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II.In 2004, in a unanimous ruling on the "Prosecutor v. Krstić" case, the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), located in The Hague, ruled that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide,[8] the Presiding Judge Theodor Meron stating
In February 2007 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) confirmed the ICTY judgement that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide, stating:
The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling withing Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.[10]
It also ruled that Serbia failed to take all measures within its power to prevent the genocide, and that Serbia was to cooperate fully with the ICTY and that it must transfer to the Hague individuals accused of genocide or any other acts for trial by the ICTY, and several fugitives from the ICTY remain at large and are suspected of hiding in territory controlled by Republic of Srpska or in Serbia.
Prior to the genocide, the United Nations had declared Srebrenica a UN protected "safe area", but that did not prevent the massacre, even though 400 armed Dutch peacekeepers were present at the time.[ Although those killed were predominantly men and teenage boys, the massacre also included instances where preteen children, women, and elderly were killed.The list of people missing or killed in Srebrenica compiled by the Federal Commission of Missing Persons so far includes 8,373 names.
George Pumphrey does have some good points & I suggest you read the notes at the end of the article. The problem with things like this (wars, massacres, genocides) every1 has a different perspective thus different opinions.
The answer to this is that humans ae being infested by an outer planetary source, and unfortunatly those humans are no longer humans and the governments are having a hard time figuring out who is who......that is your answer!
Until they work together there is always going to be Gog And Magog about study that
Yes,it is. Ratko Mladić is somewhere out there, Serbians keep him safe. Actually, they are guilty for many many genocides and they always deny it. Like on Croatia, they came into a city,killed all of the people, and they act like they didn't though there are witness and there are video tapes. Law is great.
No, It is not in the same league.
But the thoughts and intention are similar.
Srebrenica massacre, Bosnia..... Can we all take a moment to pray?
Do you think that it is right to say that Gay Dutch soldiers caused Srebrenica massacre?
Who is responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre?
Were the Christians doing the Lord's work when they massacred 8000 Muslims in Srebrenica in 1995?
What led to the Srebrenica Massacre in Bosnia?
What did Mexico do in WWII?
Is the 'Srebrenica Massacre' equivalent too The Holocaust? | Yahoo Answers
I was told that an article I presented, showing lack of consistency in claims by 'eyewitnesses' and news reports, is 'BS' and is compared too 'Holocaust denial.' I'd like to know, do you you agree or disagree that this is like denying The Holocaust, if so, why or why not? Also, do you... show more I was told that an article I presented, showing lack of consistency in claims by 'eyewitnesses' and news reports, is 'BS' and is compared too 'Holocaust denial.' I'd like to know, do you you agree or disagree that this is like denying The Holocaust, if so, why or why not? Also, do you support the sentences against those claimed guilty of genocide?
Here's the article: http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18077
Update: El: I have read the notes, just not the direct links. I am here to see different opinions on the subject though. Do you agree that it's equivalent too 'Holocaust denial' even though official news sources contradict themselves? etc. Thanks for answering.
Update 2: pro_sassenheime: Thanks for your answer. My reply to the other fellow who said it was 'BS', was that it's 'Hardly' comparable to denying the Holocaust - it's just separating fact from fiction - given all available data.
Update 3: Lana: May you please answer my other questions as well? thank you.
Update 4: On the first day of the attacks, which started in the ethnically-divided city of Kosovska Mitrovica but soon spread to several other locales, personnel of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) abandoned offices in the cities of Gnjilane, Prizren and Pec and one UN representative,... show more On the first day of the attacks, which started in the ethnically-divided city of Kosovska Mitrovica but soon spread to several other locales, personnel of the United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK) abandoned offices in the cities of Gnjilane, Prizren and Pec and one UN representative, alluding to the anti-Jewish rampage in Nazi Germany in 1938, said 'Kristallnacht is under way in Kosovo. What is happening in Kosovo must unfortunately be described as a pogrom against Serbs: churches are on fire and people are being attacked for no other reason than their ethnic background.'
Update 5: aeiou_i: Thanks for your input. While I'm not a Christian, I do stand by Truth and Justice over cover-ups, lack of consistency in official stories, etc. You have a good chance of getting BA (all five stars as well!).
Update 6: aeiou_i: I think Lana has just been severely misinformed, or gets her data from a very untrustworthy source. I don't see how scapegoating one group of people is going to resolve any conflicts.
Update 7: Thanks for your answer Doug.
Update 8: Thanks Spidey!
Update 9: Rosy Pearl: if you have a netflix account, I recommend you watch 'God on Trial', it's a great movie.
Best Answer: There was no genocide in Srebrenica. Thank you for your question :)
The Hague proclamation of Srebrenica Genocide was a political move at the Sacrifice Altar of Invincibility, where the truth is being decapitated by the victor. Those who manipulated the media and made possible the Srebrenica event, are trying to wash their bloody hands, by calling a war crime to be genocide, in an ambient they made possible for it to happen. To add to that, there were war crimes on both sides of Srebrenica, starting with Naser Oric who "took no prisoners" and was hiding in the demilitarized zone under the Dutch UN force. The Serbs, reacted to that provocation, and made a political mistake.
Those who call "genocide deniers" people who search for the truth, are the scum of our civilization. The basic Christian values are: Truth and Justice. The Truth was violated in Srebrenica by the Western Media and Justice was stabbed by the NATO flag.
The number of 8,000 Muslims killed was a first hand estimation by the Red Cross which leaned on the number of missing people. Many of these missing people appeared later in Tuzla and other places of Bosnia.
2000 bodies were found in the area. Of these, less than 500 bodies were found to have been killed after being caught. You can imagine how willing were some diggers to find as many bodies as possible.
Bosnian Serbs were not wiping every single Bosnian Muslim male along their offensive in Srebrenica.
It is a fact that Serbs changed the location of some of the bodies. That is still not close to 8000.
Alija Izetbegovic, radical Islamist, leader of the SDA party and political leader of the Bosnian Muslims, told on his dying bed to Bernard Kouchner and Richard Holbrooke that Clinton told him that NATO needed a 5,000 victim event in order to jump in against the Serbs. On one occasion he told that there was no genocide in Srebrenica. He denied telling that but there were too many witnesses who heard the opposite. Alija Izetbegovic is known for his nature of having swung back and forth his claims.
http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2006/03/335528.shtml
The investigation following with the prosecution of the case leaves a lot to desire, because it was biased and politically colored, aimed against Serbs and Serbia.
Bosnian Serbs seek revenge for what Naser Oric was doing to the surrounding Serbs. They also need to displace their military forces which have been focused around Srebrenica for too long.
Bosnian Serbs surround Srebrenica, allowing women and children (boys under 15) to leave the area. Muslim men who are left in Srebrenica, not all of them are killed - those who were not part of the Muslim military forces are not killed.
The Muslim army, with no command since Naser Oric left much earlier, starts running toward Tuzla. The manhunt was bloody...
Which part of the story here is genocide compared to the holocaust in Germany? Why was Naser Oric freed at Hague? Why did Hague accuse even the president of Serbia for what happened in Srebrenica? Why was the Ruder Fin, a (Jewish) media house, contracted to compare the Serbs with Germans? What responsibility can we attribute to those who created the Srebrenica Genocide:
http://www.youtube.com/user/mstreamm?feature=mhw4#p/f/54/jkHp_0SxTQQ
We know that Tadic is an American player, but we also know that Noam Chomsky stated that there was no genocide in Srebrenica.
http://srebrenicagenocide7111995.wordpress.com/2008/11/03/noam-chomsky-is-srebrenica-
genocide-denier/
"Yes,it is. Ratko Mladić is somewhere out there, Serbians keep him safe. Actually, they are guilty for many many genocides and they always deny it. Like on Croatia, they came into a city,killed all of the people, and they act like they didn't though there are witness and there are video tapes. Law is great."
Lana is a "classic Croat". She has no idea what happened in Croatia, because she was not even born back then, and she is full of blind hatred. I participated in the war in Croatia. Even more, I was in Vukovar, since Lana is most probably referring to Vukovar. Why doesn't Lana explain us how come the Croat Serbs who were once 22% are 4% today in Croatia, and how come they were legal constitutive and are now legal minority? Ask her why do Croats (and Muslims) build their national identity by hatred upon Serbs - is it because they are revising historical facts, calling themselves victims of the "officially guilty" Serbs?
The "Oluja" case upon which both sides accused each other of genocide, might finally separate the butcher from the victim...
pro_sass
Why don't we ask the Dutch how come a Bosnian Muslim battalion was hiding in the demilitarized zone and jumping around into Serb villages?
"It also ruled that Serbia failed to take all measures within its power to prevent the genocide,..."
lolololololollolololllolllololol
I wonder what could a neutral court rule upon Germany, Iran and USA concerning Bosnia:
Love, Truth and Justice are universal values - universal spiritual language of a large society such is our civilization which you and me are part of, despite our cultural background. I wanted to depict how Evil is not allowing the Truth to be heard and Justice to be claimed by an interest group. People who practice this Evil are Evil people, their society is Evil, their future is the path of Evil, their children will learn from books of Evil. Their seed is the seed of Evil. Lana will carry the seed of Evil if she does not understand what i am saying, despite how cute she may look.
Source(s): http://srebrenica-project.com/
http://www.dverisrpske.com/casopis.php?p=174288&b=174287
I agree. This was a terrible thing and it hasn't been brought to people's attention in the way that it should have been. We need to work together to stop such tragedies from occurring and escalating! It sickens me to think that such things are still happening - don't we, as humans, know better? Why is it so easy for us to be callous and bury our humanity? It begins with each of us - maybe there is something more you can do to make the planet better? But, Maradona Jr., I know you are just posting this question because you are offended (?) someone else thought it might be a good idea to take a moment to "pray" over a more recent, though lesser, tragedy - the one that happened at Dawson College in Montréal just September 13th, 2006. Get a life and show some compassion!
The Srebrenica Massacre, also known as Srebrenica Genocide, was the July 1995 killing of an estimated 8,000 Bosniak men and boys, in the region of Srebrenica in Bosnia and Herzegovina by units of the Army of Republika Srpska (VRS) under the command of General Ratko Mladić during the Bosnian War. In addition to the Army of Republika Srpska, a paramilitary unit from Serbia known as the "Scorpions" participated in the massacre.
The Srebrenica massacre is the largest mass murder in Europe since World War II.In 2004, in a unanimous ruling on the "Prosecutor v. Krstić" case, the Appeals Chamber of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), located in The Hague, ruled that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide,[8] the Presiding Judge Theodor Meron stating
In February 2007 the International Court of Justice (ICJ) confirmed the ICTY judgement that the Srebrenica massacre was genocide, stating:
The Court concludes that the acts committed at Srebrenica falling withing Article II (a) and (b) of the Convention were committed with the specific intent to destroy in part the group of the Muslims of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such; and accordingly that these were acts of genocide, committed by members of the VRS in and around Srebrenica from about 13 July 1995.[10]
It also ruled that Serbia failed to take all measures within its power to prevent the genocide, and that Serbia was to cooperate fully with the ICTY and that it must transfer to the Hague individuals accused of genocide or any other acts for trial by the ICTY, and several fugitives from the ICTY remain at large and are suspected of hiding in territory controlled by Republic of Srpska or in Serbia.
Prior to the genocide, the United Nations had declared Srebrenica a UN protected "safe area", but that did not prevent the massacre, even though 400 armed Dutch peacekeepers were present at the time.[ Although those killed were predominantly men and teenage boys, the massacre also included instances where preteen children, women, and elderly were killed.The list of people missing or killed in Srebrenica compiled by the Federal Commission of Missing Persons so far includes 8,373 names.
George Pumphrey does have some good points & I suggest you read the notes at the end of the article. The problem with things like this (wars, massacres, genocides) every1 has a different perspective thus different opinions.
The answer to this is that humans ae being infested by an outer planetary source, and unfortunatly those humans are no longer humans and the governments are having a hard time figuring out who is who......that is your answer!
Until they work together there is always going to be Gog And Magog about study that
Yes,it is. Ratko Mladić is somewhere out there, Serbians keep him safe. Actually, they are guilty for many many genocides and they always deny it. Like on Croatia, they came into a city,killed all of the people, and they act like they didn't though there are witness and there are video tapes. Law is great.
No, It is not in the same league.
But the thoughts and intention are similar.
Srebrenica massacre, Bosnia..... Can we all take a moment to pray?
Do you think that it is right to say that Gay Dutch soldiers caused Srebrenica massacre?
Who is responsible for the Srebrenica Massacre?
Were the Christians doing the Lord's work when they massacred 8000 Muslims in Srebrenica in 1995?
What led to the Srebrenica Massacre in Bosnia?
What did Mexico do in WWII?