Daily Kos :: Comments: EPI analysis: Simpson-Bowles proposal would cost 4 million jobs
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but my question is HOW to we begin to see, for example, Jan's plan implemented?
THATS where my frustration lies, not on HOW to fix the problem. We all KNOW what needs to be done, as was clearly stated in the story. Economists, everyone with credibility knows this plan is crap. We know WHAT needs to be done. What I don't see is a clear plan to implement something better.
That's what I wish we were talking about.
by mdmslle on Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 09:14:34 AM PST
[ Parent ] We aren't going to implement anything...
with the Congress in the hands of Republicans intent on doing nothing but bringing down the Democratic Party and relegating it to a permanent minority status. If the Speaker of the House had not supported the President in bringing the commission's plan to an up or down vote in Congress we could simply dismiss this as a bad move and try coming up with something else; however, we will now have an up or down vote on this horrible plan and will be forced to deal with the aftermath.
Politically this will be toxic for both parties and no matter what the result will end up buried in the Senate or vetoed. From the start this was a fool's errand and another example of the President's wishful thinking or worse, a pure political ploy.
I agree with you, we should have a plan, a workable fair plan, but I don't think we are going to see one because few Americans really want it enough to get one.
by KJG52 on Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 11:48:44 AM PST
Daily Kos :: Comments: EPI analysis: Simpson-Bowles proposal would cost 4 million jobs
View Diary: EPI analysis: Simpson-Bowles proposal would cost 4 million jobs (180 comments)
but my question is HOW to we begin to see, for example, Jan's plan implemented?
THATS where my frustration lies, not on HOW to fix the problem. We all KNOW what needs to be done, as was clearly stated in the story. Economists, everyone with credibility knows this plan is crap. We know WHAT needs to be done. What I don't see is a clear plan to implement something better.
That's what I wish we were talking about.
by mdmslle on Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 09:14:34 AM PST
[ Parent ] We aren't going to implement anything...
with the Congress in the hands of Republicans intent on doing nothing but bringing down the Democratic Party and relegating
 it to a permanent minority status. If the Speaker of the House had not supported the President in bringing the commission's plan to an up or down vote in Congress we could simply dismiss this as a bad move and try coming up with something else; however, we will now have an up or down vote on this horrible plan and will be forced to deal with the aftermath.
Politically this will be toxic for both parties and no matter what the result will end up buried in the Senate or vetoed. From the start this was a fool's errand and another example of the President's wishful thinking or worse, a pure political ploy.
I agree with you, we should have a plan, a workable fair plan, but I don't think we are going to see one because few Americans really want it enough to get one.
by KJG52 on Fri Nov 26, 2010 at 11:48:44 AM PST