Permalink Reply by Ted Foureagles on January 2, 2014 at 10:11pm
The culture of the South is one that celebrates ignorance -- worships it, really. I'm lucky to live now near Greenville, SC which is something of a redoubt for reasonableness in a sea of ridiculousness. My family is from Montgomery County, NC where the KKK and the Southern Baptist church are still synonymous and still run everything from the sheriff's office to the schools. It's really much, much worse than anything that makes TV. Any one of my cousins, old schoolmates and everyone I know back in that hell hole would make that Phil character look like a black gay liberal atheist. There are places in the word that thrive on religious hatred, and they ain't all in Waziristan.
Permalink Reply by kathy: ky on January 3, 2014 at 12:38am
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 9:07am
That makes me sad. The South is a region with a complex and often tragic history, and also a melding of vibrant cultures. There is a unique cuisine, literature, and science. My own heritage was infused with Appalachian origins, via my mother's family. It does not have to be a reactionary backward place.
That said I had good reasons to emigrate from my birthlace and upbringing. Which was not Southern - unless you're from Chicago. the city of reference was St Louis, and in Western Illinois / NE Missouri - an area that once dubbed itself "Forgottonia" - there was plenty of racisn, confederate flags, and "You'all aint one of us" where I grew up too. People hated and ridiculed me, and in my Baptist Church, where deacons were fathering babies with other deacons teenage daughters, where you couldn't drink or smoke but Members came in hung over and smoked outside between Sunday School and Church services, discussing their last John Birch Society propaganda, Robertson would fit right in.
Permalink Reply by Steph S. on January 2, 2014 at 7:26pm
oh wow - what a bunch of misogyny - that is so gross to hear that and it just makes me angry
Permalink Reply by Ted Foureagles on January 2, 2014 at 8:14pm
Misogyny is at the heart of all Abrahamic religions. They emerged as power structures about halfway (so far) through our late experiment with civilization. They were a means of suppressing the intuitive sense that reproduction of crops and livestock are dependent on female traits. Fatherly gods replaced goddesses, and production was seen as imposed rather than received. Those who held to "old" values of mother were (are) persecuted, and "new" values of Father God were imposed. It's visibly today, not just in overt misogyny in institutions like the Southern Vaptist (misspelling intentional) or Catholic or Islamic Churches, but in seemingly secular things like climate change denial.
Permalink Reply by Jim MacDonald on January 3, 2014 at 12:39am
Now they have released their own limited edition guns: branded shotguns, semi-automatic rifles and automatic pistol.
Inalienable rights, natural design, the creator and blow their head-off is the sales pitch.
Sure Sarah Palin will be a huge supporter, as it's her own talking keywords.
Are we now entering a new prime time TV indoctrination religious method for kids, teens and adults with star figure idol dolls, toys, boots and now creating lust for automatic pistol. To blow who's head off?
Gun promo video
http://youtu.be/nvhHpW3zPxU
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:16pm
Jim that's about the creeepiest ad I've ever seen. Made me shudder.
Permalink Reply by Ronin on January 3, 2014 at 1:47am
I don't think Washington would have wanted the phrase "Laus Deo" inscribed on his monument.
Permalink Reply by Michael Penn on January 3, 2014 at 6:53am
You would think that with all this BS going on about Quack Die Nasty, maybe I would have just turned the program on at least ONCE out of curiousity. Never did. Never will. New publicity here and I don't fall for it. Hey, I didn't even like Daniel Boone.( Richard Boone, but not Daniel Boone.) On my behalf they appear to have made all those T shirts for nothing. Sorry. I won't even wear a T shirt that advertizes something.
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:37pm
Dennis I haven't seen it either and don't want to. I suspect they got millions of dollars worth of free publicity from the controversy and will now have more viewers than ever.
I don't know about Daniel Boone. But I really don't like Debbie Boone or Pat Boone. I had to look up Richard Boone. Apparently they are all related.
Permalink Reply by kathy: ky on January 3, 2014 at 9:33pm
Sentient, I remember reading Orwell when I was young and thinking, 'this is some f'ed up stuff'. I never thought I'd live to see the day. I keep meaning to re read it. I especially remember the part where there was only one place in the library that the camera's couldn't see. This was well before video cameras were available to the public. Freaky.
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:30pm
kh, I think Orwell got it a lot more right than even he thought. Instead of the dystopia being purely govt, it turned out to be a more chaotic alliance of govt+corporation+religious infrastructure, and maybe the involved systems and people are so deep into it even they don't realize it.
I want to re-read 1984 too. I'm waiting for my Jan credits on Audible to become active. There are also free downloads of 1984 via some public domain sites. I just don't know how to get them into my cellphone.
Permalink Reply by Ted Foureagles on January 2, 2014 at 10:11pm
The culture of the South is one that celebrates ignorance -- worships it, really. I'm lucky to live now near Greenville, SC which is something of a redoubt for reasonableness in a sea of ridiculousness. My family is from Montgomery County, NC where the KKK and the Southern Baptist church are still synonymous and still run everything from the sheriff's office to the schools. It's really much, much worse than anything that makes TV. Any one of my cousins, old schoolmates and everyone I know back in that hell hole would make that Phil character look like a black gay liberal atheist. There are places in the word that thrive on religious hatred, and they ain't all in Waziristan.
Permalink Reply by kathy: ky on January 3, 2014 at 12:38am
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 9:07am
That makes me sad. The South is a region with a complex and often tragic history, and also a melding of vibrant cultures. There is a unique cuisine, literature, and science. My own heritage was infused with Appalachian origins, via my mother's family. It does not have to be a reactionary backward place.
That said I had good reasons to emigrate from my birthlace and upbringing. Which was not Southern - unless you're from Chicago. the city of reference was St Louis, and in Western Illinois / NE Missouri - an area that once dubbed itself "Forgottonia" - there was plenty of racisn, confederate flags, and "You'all aint one of us" where I grew up too. People hated and ridiculed me, and in my Baptist Church, where deacons were fathering babies with other deacons teenage daughters, where you couldn't drink or smoke but Members came in hung over and smoked outside between Sunday School and Church services, discussing their last John Birch Society propaganda, Robertson would fit right in.
Permalink Reply by Steph S. on January 2, 2014 at 7:26pm
oh wow - what a bunch of misogyny - that is so gross to hear that and it just makes me angry
Permalink Reply by Ted Foureagles on January 2, 2014 at 8:14pm
Misogyny is at the heart of all Abrahamic religions. They emerged as power structures about halfway (so far) through our late experiment with civilization. They were a means of suppressing the intuitive sense that reproduction of crops and livestock are dependent on female traits. Fatherly gods replaced goddesses, and production was seen as imposed rather than received. Those who held to "old" values of mother were (are) persecuted, and "new" values of Father God were imposed. It's visibly today, not just in overt misogyny in institutions like the Southern Vaptist (misspelling intentional) or Catholic or Islamic Churches, but in seemingly secular things 
like climate change denial.
Permalink Reply by Jim MacDonald on January 3, 2014 at 12:39am
Now they have released their own limited edition guns: branded shotguns, semi-automatic rifles and automatic pistol.
Inalienable rights, natural design, the creator and blow their head-off is the sales pitch.
Sure Sarah Palin will be a huge supporter, as it's her own talking keywords.
Are we now entering a new prime time TV indoctrination religious method for kids, teens and adults with star figure idol dolls, toys, boots and now creating lust for automatic pistol. To blow who's head off?
Gun promo video
http://youtu.be/nvhHpW3zPxU
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:16pm
Jim that's about the creeepiest ad I've ever seen. Made me shudder.
Permalink Reply by Ronin on January 3, 2014 at 1:47am
I don't think Washington would have wanted the phrase "Laus Deo" inscribed on his monument.
Permalink Reply by Michael Penn on January 3, 2014 at 6:53am
You would think that with all this BS going on about Quack Die Nasty, maybe I would have just turned the program on at least ONCE out of curiousity. Never did. Never will. New publicity here and I don't fall for it. Hey, I didn't even like Daniel Boone.( Richard Boone, but not Daniel Boone.) On my behalf they appear to have made all those T shirts for nothing. Sorry. I won't even wear a T shirt that advertizes something.
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:37pm
Dennis I haven't seen it either and don't want to. I suspect they got millions of dollars worth of free publicity from the controversy and will now have more viewers than ever.
I don't know about Daniel Boone. But I really don't like Debbie Boone or Pat Boone. I had to look up Richard Boone. Apparently they are all related.
Permalink Reply by kathy: ky on January 3, 2014 at 9:33pm
Sentient, I remember reading Orwell when I was young and thinking, 'this is some f'ed up stuff'. I never thought I'd live to see the day. I keep meaning to re read it. I especially remember the part where there was only one place in the library that the camera's couldn't see. This was well before video cameras were available to the public. Freaky.
Permalink Reply by Daniel W on January 3, 2014 at 10:30pm
kh, I think Orwell got it a lot more right than even he thought. Instead of the dystopia being purely govt, it turned out to be a more chaotic alliance of govt+corporation+religious infrastructure, and maybe the involved systems and people are so deep into it even they don't realize it.
I want to re-read 1984 too. I'm waiting for my Jan credits on Audible to become active. There are also free downloads of 1984 via some public domain sites. I just don't know how to get them into my cellphone.