Here we go. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, has yet to take office, and already the ugliness begins.
Mr. Ellison plans to bring his Koran with him on Jan. 4 when he takes the oath of office. The Koran is the Muslim holy book. If Christians and Jews can bring their Bibles, why shouldnt Mr. Ellison be able to bring his Koran?
The answer given this week by Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode was simple enough: Because Mr. Goode doesnt believe in the Koran, Mr. Ellison doesnt have any right to either. I kid you not.
What could be less American? Or less Christian?
In a letter sent to constituents, Goode wrote: When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing-In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way.
The Muslim representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district, and if American citizens dont wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration, there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.
More Muslims elected to office? More Muslims seeing our government as representative and fair? Is this a bad thing?
Susan Estrich, a former Dukakis campaign manager, sinks her fangs into Virgil Goode. So, consider the source.
While I'm not convinced that Congressman Goode handled this perfectly, he raised a very interesting point. Americans don't like Islam and a recent Rasmussen Reports poll found that about 60% of American voters would NEVER vote for a Muslim, right up there with those who wouldn't vote for an atheist.
1 posted on 12/25/2006 7:21:44 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
The Koran, unfortunately, has a provision in it that allows Moslems to lie to non-Moslems.
An oath sworn on the Koran is, of course, worthless to a non-Moslem.
2 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:18 AM PST by muawiyah
3 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:21 AM PST by Salvey (ancest)
4 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:26 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
Folks like Estrich need to get their eyes checked.
They seem to think that Virgil Goode is George Allen.
They're going to be suprised when no apology or equivocation is
forthcoming after their whining about "Islamophobia".
5 posted on 12/25/2006 7:26:42 AM PST by VOA
So, if this concept applies that a representative can take the oath on any book he/she wishes...
Does that include Wicca?
or maybe Mad Magazine.
6 posted on 12/25/2006 7:31:40 AM PST by Basheva
It is frightening how much power the LSM still has.
But in the end, given the many alternatives that now exist to the LSM, you have to blame our fellow Americans for actually believing what they, in this case, didn't read in the LSM and putting us all in extreme danger. Last month they voted in many who will be even more dangerous than Ellison.
7 posted on 12/25/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by Let's Roll ("...given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor - you will have war"- W.Churchill)
8 posted on 12/25/2006 7:33:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
9 posted on 12/25/2006 7:34:32 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
10 posted on 12/25/2006 7:36:32 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin his way across the WWW)
More Muslims seeing our government as representative and fair? Is this a bad thing?
Our bloated bureaucratic socialistic government in the modern age is barely representative, and often not fair. That fact aside, I seriously doubt that many Muslims are ever going to see it as representative and fair.
11 posted on 12/25/2006 7:36:50 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Hey! What happened to my tagline?)
12 posted on 12/25/2006 7:38:32 AM PST by vietvet67
13 posted on 12/25/2006 7:39:02 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
15 posted on 12/25/2006 7:41:37 AM PST by vietvet67
Islam is a flawed religion... and by the actions of many of its followers... a death cult. Those of the faith who abstain from the actions of its fanatics... are often silent or even forgiving of the indescriminate bloodletting.
On the day Goode made these comments, I called his office with words of support. I learned all I want to know about Islam on 9/11.
16 posted on 12/25/2006 7:41:57 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
>"What could be less American? Or less Christian?"
Well Suzy I'm glad you axed! The answers are is-Slime, and its murder manual the queeranus!
Any other questions should be addressed to Master of the Obvious!
17 posted on 12/25/2006 7:42:50 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
I don't think I'd get much work done if I knew somebody in the room was carrying a book that says stuff like:
Source: http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
18 posted on 12/25/2006 7:43:10 AM PST by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
Using a Bible to swear upon is a tradition, not a provision.
One could affirm on Margaret Murray's "God of the Witches", an Empire Strikes Back DVD, or nothing at all (as Theodore Roosevelt did).
19 posted on 12/25/2006 7:44:44 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
Thank you, Wormwood....but my question was rhetorical.
The fault is mine, I didn't make that clear.
20 posted on 12/25/2006 7:46:57 AM PST by Basheva
Here we go. Keith Ellison, the first Muslim elected to Congress, has yet to take office, and already the ugliness begins.
Mr. Ellison plans to bring his Koran with him on Jan. 4 when he takes the oath of office. The Koran is the Muslim holy book. If Christians and Jews can bring their Bibles, why shouldnt Mr. Ellison be able to bring his Koran?
The answer given this week by Virginia Rep. Virgil Goode was simple enough: Because Mr. Goode doesnt believe in the Koran, Mr. Ellison doesnt have any right to either. I kid you not.
What could be less American? Or less Christian?
In a letter sent to constituents, Goode wrote: When I raise my hand to take the oath on Swearing-In Day, I will have the Bible in my other hand. I do not subscribe to using the Koran in any way.
The Muslim representative from Minnesota was elected by the voters of that district, and if American citizens dont wake up and adopt the Virgil Goode position on immigration, there will likely be many more Muslims elected to office and demanding the use of the Koran.
More Muslims elected to office? More Muslims seeing our government as representative and fair? Is this a bad thing?
Susan Estrich, a former Dukakis campaign manager, sinks her fangs into Virgil Goode. So, consider the source.
While I'm not convinced that Congressman Goode handled this perfectly, he raised a very interesting point. Americans don't like Islam and a recent Rasmussen Reports poll found that about 60% of American voters would NEVER vote for a Muslim, right up there with those who wouldn't vote for an atheist.
1 posted on 12/25/2006 7:21:44 AM PST by Princip. Conservative
The Koran, unfortunately, has a provision in it that allows Moslems to lie to non-Moslems.
An oath sworn on the Koran is, of course, worthless to a non-Moslem.
2 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:18 AM PST by muawiyah
3 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:21 AM PST by Salvey (ancest)
4 posted on 12/25/2006 7:25:26 AM PST by bilhosty (to hell with ABCNNBCBS)
Folks like Estrich need to get their eyes checked.
They seem to think that Virgil Goode is George Allen.
They're going to be suprised when no apology or equivocation is
forthcoming after their whining about "Islamophobia".
5 posted on 12/25/2006 7:26:42 AM PST by VOA
So, if this concept applies that a representative can take the oath on any book he/she wishes...
Does that include Wicca?
or maybe Mad Magazine.
6 posted on 12/25/2006 7:31:40 AM PST by Basheva
It is frightening how much power the LSM still has.
But in the end, given the many alternatives that now exist to the LSM, you have to blame our fellow Americans for actually believing what they, in this case, didn't read in the LSM and putting us all in extreme danger. Last mont
h they voted in many who will be even more dangerous than Ellison.
7 posted on 12/25/2006 7:32:03 AM PST by Let's Roll ("...given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor - you will have war"- W.Churchill)
8 posted on 12/25/2006 7:33:32 AM PST by cripplecreek (Peace without victory is a temporary illusion.)
9 posted on 12/25/2006 7:34:32 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: Give therapeutic violence a chance!)
10 posted on 12/25/2006 7:36:32 AM PST by backhoe (Just a Merry-Hearted Keyboard PirateBoy, plunderin his way across the WWW)
More Muslims seeing our government as representative and fair? Is this a bad thing?
Our bloated bureaucratic socialistic government in the modern age is barely representative, and often not fair. That fact aside, I seriously doubt that many Muslims are ever going to see it as representative and fair.
11 posted on 12/25/2006 7:36:50 AM PST by Hardastarboard (Hey! What happened to my tagline?)
12 posted on 12/25/2006 7:38:32 AM PST by vietvet67
13 posted on 12/25/2006 7:39:02 AM PST by wgflyer (Liberalism is to society what HIV is to the immune system.)
15 posted on 12/25/2006 7:41:37 AM PST by vietvet67
Islam is a flawed religion... and by the actions of many of its followers... a death cult. Those of the faith who abstain from the actions of its fanatics... are often silent or even forgiving of the indescriminate bloodletting.
On the day Goode made these comments, I called his office with words of support. I learned all I want to know about Islam on 9/11.
16 posted on 12/25/2006 7:41:57 AM PST by johnny7 ("We took a hell of a beating." -'Vinegar Joe' Stilwell)
>"What could be less American? Or less Christian?"
Well Suzy I'm glad you axed! The answers are is-Slime, and its murder manual the queeranus!
Any other questions should be addressed to Master of the Obvious!
17 posted on 12/25/2006 7:42:50 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (When true genius appears, know him by this sign: all the dunces are in a confederacy against him.)
I don't think I'd get much work done if I knew somebody in the room was carrying a book that says stuff like:
Source: http://www.wvinter.net/~haught/Koran.html
18 posted on 12/25/2006 7:43:10 AM PST by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
Using a Bible to swear upon is a tradition, not a provision.
One could affirm on Margaret Murray's "God of the Witches", an Empire Strikes Back DVD, or nothing at all (as Theodore Roosevelt did).
19 posted on 12/25/2006 7:44:44 AM PST by Wormwood (I'm with you in Rockland)
Thank you, Wormwood....but my question was rhetorical.
The fault is mine, I didn't make that clear.
20 posted on 12/25/2006 7:46:57 AM PST by Basheva