These comments are hilarious. "CNN is promoting a hateful fake religion that is against MY hateful, fake religion!!!" LOL
December 4, 2011 at 4:27 am |
lol, your jokes broski! so true!
More religious? Because they are brainwashed?
Amina and Sarah Said. I don't need to feel better about my God. I know where I stand. Amina and Sarah, were murdered by a Muslim who followed what he was taught in the Al-Quran. Maybe you need to feel good about defending honor killings. Amina wanted to leave Islam, she was killed for her desire to be free. Did you know Amina? Well I guess this is one case where you do not know the facts. Her father is being hidden by Muslms who think he was right for what he did. Now try and tell the world how lucky those girls were to have their brother, thier Uncles, their cousins and their father practice their religion. By the way, THEY quoted the Al-Quran as the source for their right to murder the girls.
December 4, 2011 at 4:11 am |
What many Muslims refuse to face is that billions of other, less-violent people throughout the world look upon "honor killings" as one of the most dishonorable things a person can do. To call themselves peaceful after committing a violent murder done with hate, is more dishonorable still.
But their religious indoctrination makes it extremely difficult to realize what they have done. Murder is an extreme psychopathic act and is illegal all over the world, but their indoctrination-induced schizophrenia is reinforced by the religion itself. All religions that cause direct motivation for murder have the act approved within the religious texts somewhere. Without a perceived religious approval of murder, it would not occur according to a person's religious belief in the first place.
The religion is directly to blame only in part, but without it the other parts would not happen as being "religious."
December 4, 2011 at 4:57 am |
Honor killing is very common in India too, its not a religious thing, its a cultural phenomena.
I saw your comment and challenge you to mention the quote from quran, where it says a human should kill any human just because he or she does not respect god. Yes it is mentioned that God will punish them after life or sometimes within this life but not by means of having to act on it. If u raise a daughter in a radical islamist way where u like to undermine woman all the time, how would that daughter of ur will know anything else. To me, confusing that two ladies with misconception about the islam may be worst of all. U need to learn something about Islam.. It says mother in a family needs to be the most learned of all as she has the most influence on the kids and can guide the guy. Please read the book before u start commenting on it. I am a muslim (which also tells i am a peaceful person) . I believe none of the religions in the world are hateful, its few of us who take advantage of people's lack of education and egarness to learn actual facts and turn it to violance. I hope u'd read the book before making any comments in future related to Islam. Peace be upon you.
Hasan is an apologist willing to lie for that is one of the things most apologists do. You are a sorry example, Hasan!
please get some facts from the quran let tell muslims to conduct honour killing and not dump unproven stories
How can you be "more religious"? It is like more pregnant. You believe in God (higher power) or not.
December 4, 2011 at 4:10 am |
@lepke
You said, "How can you be "more religious"? It is like more pregnant. You believe in God (higher power) or not."
Belief in a higher power and religion, while related, are two different things. Belief is the ailment and religion is the symptom.
December 4, 2011 at 4:37 am |
No, religion is the disease.
Who said all muslims will inter the heaven. And who said that christians will not. Quraan said and i dont quote.that a lot of muslims will be punished.and those who have bads more than goods will taste the hell.for christians their goods more than thei bads. And believe in only the one good. Will be in the heaven. Thats why we emphasis on reading al qauraan. Thx
December 4, 2011 at 4:08 am |
Why cant you quote Al-Quran when I can quote BIBLE? becuase you have NOT studied it properly.. again as i said people talk out of ignorance and take the word of mouth as truth when actually it very misleading
December 4, 2011 at 4:20 am |
Could you try that again in English.
December 4, 2011 at 4:51 am |
you are giving me yet another proof of your ignorance..Al-Quran does NOT recognize any other source of religion as trustworthy so thats why I am only mentioning Al-Quran..dont be befooled by others who say they are talking about Islam when actually they are NOT quoting Al-Quran..this is islam's Holy book.. show me a reference in Al-Quran to prove your point..dont just talk about hearsay what you have heard from so called muslim scholars or learned people...im giving you references ..cant you read for yourself who prescribes death for adultery even though the people who believe in BIBLE criticize the same punishment??? this is the height of hypocricy.. scholars might say it is an Islamic punishment but find anyone who can give me a single reference from Al-Quran mentioning about death for adultery...Study it yourself !! it is an open challenge!! dont remain blinded...wake up!!
December 4, 2011 at 5:22 am |
I see the cowardly liars have deleted my post, and since it was obviously you who did this thing Aazim, I laugh.
December 4, 2011 at 6:17 am |
Islam ia a religion–goes and does nothing like all the other ones. Having a personal relationship with Jesus, who's tomb is empty and whose love for us all is unfathomable by the spilling of His blood to cover our sins is the truth and reaaly what is at issue.
As a Muslim, I am offended by the Islamaphobic statements on this site. My goat is upset and refuses to sleep with me.
December 4, 2011 at 4:04 am |
Muslims are "more religious" because they are more ignorant.
December 4, 2011 at 4:01 am |
I agree that so called "labelled" muslims are as ignorant as "labelled" christians, jews, hindus or people for any other religion. How many people actually have studied their "Holy" book..a vast majority just carry their own opinions based upon what they have been taught by others rather than making any effort on their own part to find out the truth
Like I quoted an example ..you always thought the Islam recommends death punishment for adultery but actually it is a BIBLICAL law although the vast majority of people who claim that they believe in BIBLE as a word of GOD do not practice it and many so called "labelled" muslims who are ignorant of Al-Quran believe that it is Allah' law mentioned in Al-Quran when actually it is NOT an Islamic law
Another attempt to evade and distract, Aazim! Funny how you do not mention Sharia in your post.
No Plato. No Aristotle, no Augustine = No Renaissance. Thus, primitives stuck in the 7th Century
I laughed to you
You so ignorant person, read and learn the Islamic scientists.
December 4, 2011 at 4:29 am |
Those are philosophers, not scientists. Islam does not approve of any philosophy that might contradict Islam.
Mohommed was an uneducated thug who sought control of others. His followers reflect this. That is Islam.
what people have to realize is that there are big money spent here in the united states to try to enforce Islam over people.
Saudi Arabia fund billions of dollars which happens to be American tax payers' money that was used to buy oil, in spreading Islam across the state, preaching, building unnecessary mosques all around.
part of the deal is to ease the exposure of Islam into the american life try to act that it is part of the american life. Sometimes they show group of muslims who say we are just american just like you ads, "No you are not" at least by those who hired you. I have to give account to the fact that there are good muslim people, who happened to care less about abiding to the teaching of Islam, but if they decided to act upon their books, they will turn the switch and become violent.
It makes me angry and I hope everyone to realize this, the muslim people who call themselves for peace and love to other people have not come out and condemned those who did the 911 attacks. The type which they appear and tell other muslims that those who did these acts are criminals and you should not follow them, and if you do the religion is not justifying your action, but non of this would or have happened.
Just for everyone who do not follow international news and is able to get to primary sources, Osama Bin Laden is considered a hero in Islam because he killed the infidels who are us Americans. Even the muslim people especially those who are Sunni who come from the middle east, I do not want to generalize, but they kinda feel in their heart that what happened is a victory to Islam and to Allah their God.
Look at any country who has a majority of muslim populations, it is devastated, people are not getting any rights, women are treated badly, a man can go ahead and marry four women if he wants, and I do not blame him if his leader of the faith married I believe nine and one of them was a nine your old girl, so this should not surprise people. I do not want to focus too much on the religion aspect but what those terrorists do these day is no different from what they aught to do in their religion.
Mohammed was a man of war. He used to stop trades and steal their goods and in the process many people were killed.
Islam would never be to this day if it were not for the used of the sword and the killing of people and enforcing them to subdue. You can find it clear in their quran. The quran is full of violent verses that urges and "Orders" the people to kill other people who does not agree with them in the faith. This of course include Christians, Jews, and the people who does not believe in God. But surprisingly they only focus on Christians and Jews, who actually believe in God, so their problems are not with people who they think do not know their God, their problem is with the God who those other people believe in so they persecutee them and subdue them into believing in their God.
Whenever you have a discussion with a muslims about how radicals islam is, he will easily points out to the Crusaders. If you notice, their only enemy is Christians or Jews "people who believe in God" they did not go and talk about atheists, but I'm sure once they get done with those two first they will work on the rest, but to continue the discussion, the muslim will point out to the crusaders that they killed people and raged wars.
First people have to read the history and know what happened before those crusaders did that, this is the first point. Secondly, lets say that the crusaders were wrong because they killed and raged war on those muslims people who actually before this happened the muslims went with their armies to occupy their lands in order to spread Islam.
What the crusaders did was not derived from the Bible and was not derived from the Christian faith so when they knew the reality they went back from their wars. In the Bible there is no direct orders from God to kill other non believers of the Christian faith, matter of fact God order people to be peaceful to their enemies and love them. and then people will point to some parts of the old testament or the Torah where Israel went about killing people, but the big difference here from what Islam did: 1) they were not doing this to spread a religion. 2)the text is presented to inform people about History of the past. Unlike what is found in Islam which is "Orders" from their God to kill other people who are non-believer of Islam.
December 4, 2011 at 3:58 am |
Can you believe that Moslem were war mongers who spread their religion with sword? Maybe if you can believe that few tens of thousands in the desert can convert tens of millions in Syria, Iraq, Egypt around the middle east.
Read history to know if you expand too much you should be defeated even if you are more powerful and more sophisticated (see what happened to Hitler, Napoleon, Gankeez Khan, Julius Caesar, etc).
If it is not "message of power", why do you experiment with "power of message" explanation of what happened for Islam expansion.
Rational people cannot swallow that uncivilized and undeveloped small number of people can overcome larger more developed, and more strictly, they maintain their gains and flourish. Give me a similar example in history that can match.
December 4, 2011 at 4:14 am |
Andres Brevik? is that you? I guess Christians terrorists have internet access in Norway jails. What a total hate/war mongering garbage!
Wow..lol..when the sun comes from the west.there will not be any repint at all.. when jesus comes down in front of thw white dome of the dimuscus mosque and follows the the blind desiever in palestine. Specially, at. Allud area. And kill him .when dead people get back alive from their cemetrie to see their doings.we gave u the reason and choice.but u were injust to urself. So taste the torture forever.no valid arguments. We sent our massengers to inform u. U were ignorant.but for those who respected profits.didnt take another god next to him. Worshipped him. Feared him and controlled their desires to keep the world pure and themselves healthy and united. Those will be in heavens under which rivers run.fin which all what u liiketo eat. Wine and beautiful angels. A reward for what u preparwd urself for. Thanks god. Am submitting u. Not hard. Google the hoolly b book quraan. Abd just read what the injust, violant. Unducated man wrote, lol.forgive me god. Wish thr right path for all of u brothers. Onky read quraan. Google it now. Appreciated thu.
December 4, 2011 at 3:51 am |
December 4, 2011 at 3:55 am |
You again prove my point that majority of people talk out of ignorance and Im afraid so are you.. No where in Al-Quran it is mentioned that sun will rise from west or Jesus will come down.. you are actually quoting BIBLE and thinking this is Al-Quran when you talk about second coming of Jesus..see the references below
WAKE UP!!! find the truth..read Al-Quran
December 4, 2011 at 4:15 am |
That is an apologist attempting to masquerade as a Christian hatemonger for the first few lines and make it appear worthless.
December 4, 2011 at 4:26 am |
I was not talking to "moe" or "Aazim."
Then there is the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which styles isletf an organization that challenges stereotypes of Islam and Muslims CAIR challenges those stereotypes rather well as it continues to be far more gratuitously offensive, legally frivolous and all around just plain obnoxious than most Muslims could hope to be in several lifetimes.Under Islamic law, truth is no defense against an accusation of slander and the offense is held to be a Hudud crime, one deserving the harshest punishment.Isn't it long overdue to make this one simple contradiction of all Western legal traditions into a central argument for rejecting, root and branch, every last shred of Islamic "law". If truth is not the last and best defense, then that which renders it so cannot be construed as "law" in any but the most arbitrary sense of the word. Reviling Muslims or Harming the Friends of Allah Most High are considered serious sins, termed Enormities .Hey, Islam. I've got an "Enormity" you can kiss. criticism, either from Muslims or non-Muslims, will not be entertained Palestinians have long squawked about making people face "the criticism of the gun". They need to remember that a gun can point in either direction.Efforts at the international level, especially by the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), to define any questioning of Islamic doctrine as hate speech leading to hate crimes , such as Islamophobia and as a human rights violation by way of official resolutions at the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC), directly create the premise for criminalization of free speech.All of which is a sterling indication that Muslim sensitivity to questioning or criticism of any sort must be disregarded at every turn. Homegrown jihadist terrorism can find its motivation as part of the radicalization process in this heightened, and counter-factual, sense of victimization that justifies organized or lone wolf acts of jihad that are rationalized as defensive.If these "lone wolf" attacks can be traced back to Islamic "law" and constantly aired grievances by professional Muslim victims, then they aren't "lone wolf" attacks; they are organized and coordinated terrorism following the explicit dictates of Qur'anic doctrine.
September 9, 2012 at 3:54 am |
Under penalty of the sword.
December 4, 2011 at 3:50 am |
Richard Allen Greene, Nima Elbagir and Atika Shubert (CNN) are what is wrong with America. Not us!
December 4, 2011 at 3:48 am |
Why Islam treat their women like slaves and why women cover their hair? Anyone can tell me?
Brother I dont know what religion you belong to but as I mentioned in an earlier post...people belive their own conjectures and word of mouth and base their judgement on that,, covering of the head is mentioned in BIBLE..im giving you the reference below..you can see for yourself..if you want to find out what Islam wants from women then you should study Al-Quran and not just blindly believe what so called muslims are doing..again email me at draazimkamal@hotmail.com if you have any questions
So repression and subordination of man is a teaching from BIBLE NOT Al-Quran !!
similarly general belief is that in Islam the punishment for adultery is DEATH..this law is anti Islamic as it is NOT in Al-Quran but guess what!! its in BIBLE..see the references below
Wake up!!! and find the truth yourself!!
As a woman who cover her hair I can answer you that none of the males in my life: dad, brother or husband had forced me to wear Hijab. It is my choise as Islam encourage women to wear modest clothings. And me following Islam teachings make me more satisfied and feel closer to God. It also protect me from other guys eyes. No one will desire a coverd woman. I am married and I wear everything I want infront of my husband and also dad and brothers. but other guys are not allowed to see what underneath my Hijab. this is Islam. It is all about protecting women and keep both men and women desires under control. No relationships out of marriage. A woman can wear and look like any hollywood star but just infront of her husband and other women . it may looks hard to westren women but to Muslims it is the way of life.
December 4, 2011 at 4:05 am |
Islam was the first religion to give women their rights stop female infanticide, give them a share in heritage, right to divorce and chose who to marry etc. Cultural conservative practices confused for religious ones can be misleading, watch out Dan.
I want to share my thoughts. I think the only way to understand any religion is to study its "Holy Book", rather than go asking people who "claim" that they follow the religion, In Islam's case that book is "Al-Quran". Only by studying Al-Quran you can understand what islam is all about and what it represents. You can find the best and the worst among the "labelled" muslims and that tells you nothing about the religion itself, the same way you can find good and bad people in Christianity, Jewdaism, Hindusm and so forth. Its a waste of time to conduct these surveys with no practical value. Many so called muslims follow their own conjectures believing that these are God's commandments because these have been taught to them by their forefathers and a vast majority of the people have not studied Al-Quran at all – not even once in their lives! And these belives and in direct contradiction to the teachings of Al-Quran. So I would recommend anyone who sincerely wants to find out the truth to study Al-Quran as it is the ONLY book that itself claims it is from Allah/God and claims that there are no contradictions in it. It itself provides the reader with many proofs that the book is authentic. Its a challenge from Allah/God Himself to the reader!! All other so called "Holy" books are full of contradictions. email me if you have any questions at draazimkamal@hotmail.com
December 4, 2011 at 3:46 am |
The BIble is from God, who in the book is identified as simultaneously God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Anything these three say is authoritative of God because they are all God at the same time, but with different functions in regards to salvation and living a daily life. There are also no contradictions in the scripture. The "contradictions" you hear about refer to technicalities (a word is spelled one way in this Greek manuscript, another way in another manuscript, but clearly means the same word) or seldom-used words that are difficult to translate (I believe one word was translated as "owl" in one transation and "ostrich" in another). The "contradictions" also may refer to passages where someone quotes just a verse or two, rather than the whole block around it; a proper contextual reading would show that there is no contradiction. There is not a single doctrinal discrepancy in the Bible.
And, we have over 5000 manuscripts, some dating back almost 2000 years, that we can compare the modern translations to, to see how accurate they are to the original, and to correct the minor errors as our understanding improves. Every book in the Bible was written by a man who was directly influenced and inspired by God to reveal what He wanted us to know, using the voice of the author.
On the other hand, as I understand it, the Quran was written a couple hundreds years after the death of Mohammad by followers, a collection of sayings as the believers remembered them. The copies were compared to each other, an official version was put together, and ALL other existing "versions" were burned. We can't go back and compare different versions of his teachings, we can't look critically for errors in logic or typography, because we have nothing older to refer to. The content of the Quran aside as well as the behavior of Muslims in the Middle Ages, tending to provoke the Christian countries of Europe to crusade against them, it is difficult to compare the Quran and the Bible, because they just don't stand on equal ground...for investigation.
December 4, 2011 at 4:03 am |
So ... the Qu'ran is right because the Qu'ran claims it is right? Yeah, the buy-bull is the same way... nice circular arguement there.
For Mirosal'
No it is not right just because it claims so... read it and find for yourself and dispute any of the challenges that it throws upon you..is it hard for you to read?? im giving you an invitation so accept it ...READ IT TO PROVE IT WRONG!! make it a challenge for yourself that you will prove it wrong!! is it that difficult??
Shame on you CNN. You know America has always been a melting pot of religions. Facts are simple from a simple person. Mess with mine I mess with yours. Bomb my country and I will put rifle in my hands. Not pretty ,but effective. I am Afro American and would give my life for another American.
Facts are simple why do they believe in religion so much more then us. Simple they have no where to go and nothing to do.
Fact no mass transit system. Fact no dessert I have seen yet has turned into a rain forest. Fact its hotter then hell and there is no way my black azz is going outside in that heat either. Now America is a playground of resources and ideas. Fact is rich are not going into dessert to rebuild those peoples lives there over their for the oil.
Fact our religious wake jobs don't go to Muslim communities because the minute they sit down fill out the passport info and have the f.b.i meeting with them because there posting crazy stuff on the internet or buy stuff to build bombs or rifles or tiring to get on board a US flight with a rifle. America is going lock there azz up.
Please let me make my post of July 12 at 1:00 pm clearer. In the last senecnte I should have written: "In fact, in many immorality is taught CONTRARY to Catholic or Christian (Biblical) teaching." Thank you for posting my correction.
September 6, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
Defend Islam all you want, the fact is they are now where the Christians were during the Inquisitions. They just need to catch up and practice what they are trying to sell the world. They claim it is a religion of peace yet they are blowing each other up daily. They want to blame the West for their troubles yet their own nations are close to civil war because of how they treat each other. Sunni and Shia can’t agree and they both want to blame Jews and Christians for their troubles. They have no sense of the value of a woman and need to realize it’s time to stop worrying about the male ego. As for me, I will never fear my God, because I know he is so powerful and bigger than anything I can imagine, he does not require my fear, nor is his ego so big that he won’t just laugh at my questions. Peace Out.
December 4, 2011 at 3:41 am |
OK, whatever, sounds like you just need a reason to feel better about your God and religion.
December 4, 2011 at 3:47 am |
islam is a religion of moral without grace. it teaches moral and enforce it . in the other hand the christian religion is a way of life hanging on the grace of God from the moment you have given your life to Christ and one has accept Him as his or her Lord and savior, which we called born again as Christian. In Islam, your eligibility to go to Aljanna depends on your performance of your Islamic rituals like: going to mecca once in your life time, paying sakat and sadakat, giving things to the needy, fasting during the month of ramadan, praying 5 times a day. Once you are able to do those things, eventhough you destroy life others or you steal it doesn't count. And another things is that the more you are religious as a muslim the more you the people of toher faiths look like a devil and as long as they are not Muslims they must be killed if they are not ready to be converted to islam. In Islam, every sin you comited have a kind of prayer you offer Allah and you are free.Even if you rerlate with another man's wife. Though they are comited to their religion, unfortunately none of them have assurance of where they are going at the end except that there is 32 vifgings awaiting everyone muslim in Aljanna. All born again christian have assurance of heaven. You can contact me if you need more explanation. Thanks
December 4, 2011 at 3:37 am |
KOLA, haha, apparently your understanding of Islam comes from Sunday hate schools. All you said about Islam is completely false.
Where did you come with this knowledge about Islam? Moslems believe in the 10 commandments, including not killing (any mankind) and not stealing, etc. They believe Jesus and Moses were Moslems (worshipping the same God and submitting to him). No prayer is guaranteed to forgive sins, no priest can help in Islam. I can go on and on.
It is interesting to believe that 1.5 billions can be brainwashed. Christianity started in the middle east and most moslems knows about it more than Christians in the US. You need to read about the sectors of Christianity to discover that most Christian today are adopting St. Paul's version of Christianity which were neither dominant nor the correct view of Christianity.
I hope you will discover "true" Christianity which does not differ significantly from Islam. May God guide all of us.
December 4, 2011 at 3:54 am |
I see none but Muslims responded to your very nice post, KOLA. And all they say is the opposite of the truth.
Oh, they do not like your post because it is truthful! They don't like that at all!
It makes me laugh to think of them or him/her stewing at what you have said!
Now if they would just do us all a favor and die of apoplexy like every good extremist should, then wouldn't that be excellent? Oh, yes!
can you provide reference of any verse from Al-Quran about any of the allegations that you have made...im sure you CANNOT provide any because none of your accusations are supported by Al-Quran...the word ISLAM means " to attain peace" and Al-Quran does not allow any physical killing/slaughter of people. it just proves my point that you keep on talking out of ignorance based upon what you see and hear in your society rather that studying Al-Quran itself to find out what muslims are SUPPOSED to do, NOT what they are actually doing....you will find vicious criminals who align themselves to any religion of the world but it does not make that religion wrong...if only the Holy book of a religion tells you to do a crime, then it will make that religion criminal ..so please yet again I invite you to read Al-Quran and see for yourself what it says...do not base your judgement upon what people tell you about it
December 4, 2011 at 4:58 am |
im giving you just one referenc from Al-Qran..Surah Baqarah (2) Verse 84 that clearly mentions that Allah does NOT allow blood shed
And remember We took your covenant : Shed no blood amongst you, nor turn out your own people from your homes: and this ye solemnly ratified, and to this ye can bear witness.
AND one reference from BIBLE in which it orders to kill non believers...the same allegation that you are making against Islam..read it for yourself...hope it opens up someones eyes!!!!
I am laughing because Aazim's eyes must be like a frog's! I can almost hear you choking, Aazim! May you die soon!
Peace be upon you Mr Prabu!!
You can do nothing to me with your false blessing but make me laugh some more!
I have always admire their B&W thinking when it comes to their faith. It's ALL. No backdoors, no blah, blah, blah. Love that.
Either man destroys religion or religion destroys man
December 4, 2011 at 3:35 am |
These comments are hilarious. "CNN is promoting a hateful fake religion that is against MY hateful, fake religion!!!" LOL
December 4, 2011 at 4:27 am |
lol, your jokes broski! so true!
More religious? Because they are brainwashed?
Amina and Sarah Said. I don't need to feel better about my God. I know where I stand. Amina and Sarah, were murdered by a Muslim who followed what he was taught in the Al-Quran. Maybe you need to feel good about defending honor killings. Amina wanted to leave Islam, she was killed for her desire to be free. Did you know Amina? Well I guess this is one case where you do not know the facts. Her father is being hidden by Muslms who think he was right for what he did. Now try and tell the world how lucky those girls were to have their brother, thier Uncles, their cousins and their father practice their religion. By the way, THEY quoted the Al-Quran as the source for their right to murder the girls.
December 4, 2011 at 4:11 am |
What many Muslims refuse to face is that billions of other, less-violent people throughout the world look upon "honor killings" as one of the most dishonorable things a person can do. To call themselves peaceful after committing a violent murder done with hate, is more dishonorable still.
But their religious indoctrination makes it extremely difficult to realize what they have done. Murder is an extreme psychopathic act and is illegal all over the world, but their indoctrination-induced schizophrenia is reinforced by the religion itself. All religions that cause direct motivation for murder have the act approved within the religious texts somewhere. Without a perceived religious approval of murder, it would not occur according to a person's religious belief in the first place.
The religion is directly to blame only in part, but without it the other parts would not happen as being "religious."
December 4, 2011 at 4:57 am |
Honor killing is very common in India too, its not a religious thing, its a cultural phenomena.
I saw your comment and challenge you to mention the quote from quran, where it says a human should kill any human just because he or she does not respect god. Yes it is mentioned that God will punish them after life or sometimes within this life but not by means of having to act on it. If u raise a daughter in a radical islamist way where u like to undermine woman all the time, how would that daughter of ur will know anything else. To me, confusing that two ladies with misconception about the islam may be worst of all. U need to learn something about Islam.. It says mother in a family needs to be the most learned of all as she has the most influence on the kids and can guide the guy. Please read the book before u start commenting on it. I am a muslim (which also tells i am a peaceful person) . I believe none of the religions in the world are hateful, its few of us who take advantage of people's lack of education and egarness to learn actual facts and turn it to violance. I hope u'd read the book before making any comments in future related to Islam. Peace be upon you.
Hasan is an apologist willing to lie for that is one of the things most apologists do. You are a sorry example, Hasan!
please get some facts from the quran let tell muslims to conduct honour killing and not dump unproven stories
How can you be "more religious"? It is like more pregnant. You believe in God (higher power) or not.
December 4, 2011 at 4:10 am |
@lepke
You said, "How can you be "more religious"? It is like more pregnant. You believe in God (higher power) or not."
Belief in a higher power and religion, while related, are two different things. Belief is the ailment and religion is the symptom.
December 4, 2011 at 4:37 am |
No, religion is the disease.
Who said all muslims will inter the heaven. And who said that christians will not. Quraan said and i dont quote.that a lot of muslims will be punished.and those who have bads more than goods will taste the hell.for christians their goods more than thei bads. And believe in only the one good. Will be in the heaven. Thats why we emphasis on reading al qauraan. Thx
December 4, 2011 at 4:08 am |
Why cant you quote Al-Quran when I can quote BIBLE? becuase you have NOT studied it properly.. again as i said people talk out of ignorance and take the word of mouth as truth when actually it very misleading
December 4, 2011 at 4:20 am |
Could you try that again in English.
December 4, 2011 at 4:51 am |
you are giving me yet another proof of your ignorance..Al-Quran does NOT recognize any other source of religion as trustworthy so thats why I am only mentioning Al-Quran..dont be befooled by others who say they are talking about Islam when actually they are NOT quoting Al-Quran..this is islam's Holy book.. show me a reference in Al-Quran to prove your point..dont just talk about hearsay what you have heard from so called muslim scholars or learned people...im giving you references ..cant you read for yourself who prescribes death for adultery even though the people who believe in BIBLE criticize the same punishment??? this is the height of hypocricy.. scholars might say it is an Islamic punishment but find anyone who can give me a single reference from Al-Quran mentioning about death for adultery...Study it yourself !! it is an open challenge!! dont remain blinded...wake up!!
December 4, 2011 at 5:22 am |
I see the cowardly liars have deleted my post, and since it was obviously you who did this thing Aazim, I laugh.
December 4, 2011 at 6:17 am |
Islam ia a religion–goes and does nothing like all the other ones. Having a personal relationship with Jesus, who's tomb is empty and whose love for us all is unfathomable by the spilling of His blood to cover our sins is the truth and reaaly what is at issue.
As a Muslim, I am offended by the Islamaphobic statements on this site. My goat is upset and refuses to sleep with me.
December 4, 2011 at 4:04 am |
Muslims are "more religious" because they are more ignorant.
December 4, 2011 at 4:01 am |
I agree that so called "labelled" muslims are as ignorant as "labelled" christians, jews, hindus or people for any other religion. How many people actually have studied their "Holy" book..a vast majority just carry their own opinions based upon what they have been taught by others rather than making any effort on their own part to find out the truth
Like I quoted an example ..you always thought the Islam recommends death punishment for adultery but actually it is a BIBLICAL law although the vast majority of people who claim that they believe in BIBLE as a word of GOD do not practice it and many so called "labelled" muslims who are ignorant of Al-Quran believe that it is Allah' law mentioned in Al-Quran when actually it is NOT an Islamic law
Another attempt to evade and distract, Aazim! Funny how you do not mention Sharia in your post.
No Plato. No Aristotle, no Augustine = No Renaissance. Thus, primitives stuck in the 7th Century
I laughed to you
You so ignorant person, read and learn the Islamic scientists.
December 4, 2011 at 4:29 am |
Those are philosophers, not scientists. Islam does not approve of any philosophy that might contradict Islam.
Mohommed was an uneducated thug who sought control of others. His followers reflect this. That is Islam.
what people have to realize is that there are big money spent here in the united states to try to enforce Islam over people.
Saudi Arabia fund billions of dollars which happens to be American tax payers' money that was used to buy oil, in spreading Islam across the state, preaching, building unnecessary mosques all around.
part of the deal is to ease the exposure of Islam into the american life try to act that it is part of the american life. Sometimes they show group of muslims who say we are just american just like you ads, "No you are not" at least by those who hired you. I have to give account to the fact that there are good muslim people, who happened to care less about abiding to the teaching of Islam, but if they decided to act upon their books, they will turn the switch and become violent.
It makes me angry and I hope everyone to realize this, the muslim people who call themselves for peace and love to other people have not come out and condemned those who did the 911 attacks. The type which they appear and tell other muslims that those who did these acts are criminals and you should not follow them, and if you do the religion is not justifying your action, but non of this would or have happened.
Just for everyone who do not follow international news and is able to get to primary sources, Osama Bin Laden is considered a hero in Islam because he killed the infidels who are us Americans. Even the muslim people especially those who are Sunni who come from the middle east, I do not want to generalize, but they kinda feel in their heart that what happened is a victory to Islam and to Allah their God.
Look at any country who has a majority of muslim populations, it is devastated, people are not getting any rights, women are treated badly, a man can go ahead and marry four women if he wants, and I do not blame him if his leader of the faith married I believe nine and one of them was a nine your old girl, so this should not surprise people. I do not want to focus too much on the religion aspect but what those terrorists do these day is no different from what they aught to do in their religion.
Mohammed was a man of war. He used to stop trades and steal their goods and in the process many people were killed.
Islam would never be to this day if it were not for the used of the sword and the killing of people and enforcing them to subdue. You can find it clear in their quran. The quran is full of violent verses that urges and "Orders" the people to kill other people who does not agree with them in the faith. This of course include Christians, Jews, and the people who does not believe in God. But surprisingly they only focus on Christians and Jews, who actually believe in God, so their problems are not with people who they think do not know their God, their problem is with the God who those other people believe in so they persecutee them and subdue them into believing in their God.
Whenever you have a discussion with a muslims about how radicals islam is, he will easily points out to the Crusaders. If you notice, their only enemy is Christians or Jews "people who believe in God" they did not go and talk about atheists, but I'm sure once they get done with those two first they will work on the rest, but to continue the discussion, the muslim will point out to the crusaders that they killed people and raged wars.
First people have to read the history and know what happened before those crusaders did that, this is the first point. Secondly, lets say that the crusaders were wrong because they killed and raged war on those muslims people who actually before this happened the muslims went with their armies to occupy their lands in order to spread Islam.
What the crusaders did was not derived from the Bible and was not derived from the Christian faith so when they knew the reality they went back from their wars. In the Bible there is no direct orders from God to kill other non believers of the Christian faith, matter of fact God order people to be peaceful to their enemies and love them. and then people will point to some parts of the old testament or the Torah where Israel went about killing people, but the big difference here from what Islam did: 1) they were not doing this to spread a religion. 2)the text is presented to inform people about History of the past. Unlike what is found in Islam which is "Orders" from their God to kill other people who are non-believer of Islam.
December 4, 2011 at 3:58 am |
Can you believe that Moslem were war mongers who spread their religion with sword? Maybe if you can believe that few tens of thousands in the desert can convert tens of millions in Syria, Iraq, Egypt around the middle east.
Read history to know if you expand too much you should be defeated even if you are more powerful and more sophisticated (see what happened to Hitler, Napoleon, Gankeez Khan, Julius Caesar, etc).
If it is not "message of power", why do you experiment with "power of message" explanation of what happened for Islam expansion.
Rational people cannot swallow that uncivilized and undeveloped small number of people can overcome larger more developed, and more strictly, they maintain their gains and flourish. Give me a similar example in history that can match.
December 4, 2011 at 4:14 am |
Andres Brevik? is that you? I guess Christians terrorists have internet access in Norway jails. What a total hate/war mongering garbage!
Wow..lol..when the sun comes from the west.there will not be any repint at all.. when jesus comes down in front of thw white dome of the dimuscus mosque and follows the the blind desiever in palestine. Specially, at. Allud area. And kill him .when dead people get back alive from their cemetrie to see their doings.we gave u the reason and choice.but u were injust to urself. So taste the torture forever.no valid arguments. We sent our massengers to inform u. U were ignorant.but for those who respected profits.didnt take another god next to him. Worshipped him. Feared him and controlled their desires to keep the world pure and themselves healthy and united. Those will be in heavens under which rivers run.fin which all what u liiketo eat. Wine and beautiful angels. A reward for what u preparwd urself for. Thanks god. Am submitting u. Not hard. Google the hoolly b book quraan. Abd just read what the injust, violant. Unducated man wrote, lol.forgive me god. Wish thr right path for all of u brothers. Onky read quraan. Google it now. Appreciated thu.
December 4, 2011 at 3:51 am |
December 4, 2011 at 3:55 am |
You again prove my point that majority of people talk out of ignorance and Im afraid so are you.. No where in Al-Quran it is mentioned that sun will rise from west or Jesus will come down.. you are actually quoting BIBLE and thinking this is Al-Quran when you talk about second coming of Jesus..see the references below
WAKE UP!!! find the truth..read Al-Quran
December 4, 2011 at 4:15 am |
That is an apologist attempting to masquerade as a Christian hatemonger for the first few lines and make it appear worthless.
December 4, 2011 at 4:26 am |
I was not talking to "moe" or "Aazim."
Then there is the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), which styles isletf an organization that challenges stereotypes of Islam and Muslims CAIR challenges those stereotypes rather well as it continues to be far more gratuitously offensive, legally frivolous and all around just plain obnoxious than most Muslims could hope to be in several lifetimes.Under Islamic law, truth is no defense against an accusation of slander and the offense is held to be a Hudud crime, on
e deserving the harshest punishment.Isn't it long overdue to make this one simple contradiction of all Western legal traditions into a central argument for rejecting, root and branch, every last shred of Islamic "law". If truth is not the last and best defense, then that which renders it so cannot be construed as "law" in any but the most arbitrary sense of the word. Reviling Muslims or Harming the Friends of Allah Most High are considered serious sins, termed Enormities .Hey, Islam. I've got an "Enormity" you can kiss. criticism, either from Muslims or non-Muslims, will not be entertained Palestinians have long squawked about making people face "the criticism of the gun". They need to remember that a gun can point in either direction.Efforts at the international level, especially by the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), to define any questioning of Islamic doctrine as hate speech leading to hate crimes , such as Islamophobia and as a human rights violation by way of official resolutions at the United Nations Human Rights Council (UNHRC), directly create the premise for criminalization of free speech.All of which is a sterling indication that Muslim sensitivity to questioning or criticism of any sort must be disregarded at every turn. Homegrown jihadist terrorism can find its motivation as part of the radicalization process in this heightened, and counter-factual, sense of victimization that justifies organized or lone wolf acts of jihad that are rationalized as defensive.If these "lone wolf" attacks can be traced back to Islamic "law" and constantly aired grievances by professional Muslim victims, then they aren't "lone wolf" attacks; they are organized and coordinated terrorism following the explicit dictates of Qur'anic doctrine.
September 9, 2012 at 3:54 am |
Under penalty of the sword.
December 4, 2011 at 3:50 am |
Richard Allen Greene, Nima Elbagir and Atika Shubert (CNN) are what is wrong with America. Not us!
December 4, 2011 at 3:48 am |
Why Islam treat their women like slaves and why women cover their hair? Anyone can tell me?
Brother I dont know what religion you belong to but as I mentioned in an earlier post...people belive their own conjectures and word of mouth and base their judgement on that,, covering of the head is mentioned in BIBLE..im giving you the reference below..you can see for yourself..if you want to find out what Islam wants from women then you should study Al-Quran and not just blindly believe what so called muslims are doing..again email me at draazimkamal@hotmail.com if you have any questions
So repression and subordination of man is a teaching from BIBLE NOT Al-Quran !!
similarly general belief is that in Islam the punishment for adultery is DEATH..this law is anti Islamic as it is NOT in Al-Quran but guess what!! its in BIBLE..see the references below
Wake up!!! and find the truth yourself!!
As a woman who cover her hair I can answer you that none of the males in my life: dad, brother or husband had forced me to wear Hijab. It is my choise as Islam encourage women to wear modest clothings. And me following Islam teachings make me more satisfied and feel closer to God. It also protect me from other guys eyes. No one will desire a coverd woman. I am married and I wear everything I want infront of my husband and also dad and brothers. but other guys are not allowed to see what underneath my Hijab. this is Islam. It is all about protecting women and keep both men and women desires under control. No relationships out of marriage. A woman can wear and look like any hollywood star but just infront of her husband and other women . it may looks hard to westren women but to Muslims it is the way of life.
December 4, 2011 at 4:05 am |
Islam was the first religion to give women their rights stop female infanticide, give them a share in heritage, right to divorce and chose who to marry etc. Cultural conservative practices confused for religious ones can be misleading, watch out Dan.
I want to share my thoughts. I think the only way to understand any religion is to study its "Holy Book", rather than go asking people who "claim" that they follow the religion, In Islam's case that book is "Al-Quran". Only by studying Al-Quran you can understand what islam is all about and what it represents. You can find the best and the worst among the "labelled" muslims and that tells you nothing about the religion itself, the same way you can find good and bad people in Christianity, Jewdaism, Hindusm and so forth. Its a waste of time to conduct these surveys with no practical value. Many so called muslims follow their own conjectures believing that these are God's commandments because these have been taught to them by their forefathers and a vast majority of the people have not studied Al-Quran at all – not even once in their lives! And these belives and in direct contradiction to the teachings of Al-Quran. So I would recommend anyone who sincerely wants to find out the truth to study Al-Quran as it is the ONLY book that itself claims it is from Allah/God and claims that there are no contradictions in it. It itself provides the reader with many proofs that the book is authentic. Its a challenge from Allah/God Himself to the reader!! All other so called "Holy" books are full of contradictions. email me if you have any questions at draazimkamal@hotmail.com
December 4, 2011 at 3:46 am |
The BIble is from God, who in the book is identified as simultaneously God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit. Anything these three say is authoritative of God because they are all God at the same time, but with different functions in regards to salvation and living a daily life. There are also no contradictions in the scripture. The "contradictions" you hear about refer to technicalities (a word is spelled one way in this Greek manuscript, another way in another manuscript, but clearly means the same word) or seldom-used words that are difficult to translate (I believe one word was translated as "owl" in one transation and "ostrich" in another). The "contradictions" also may refer to passages where someone quotes just a verse or two, rather than the whole block around it; a proper contextual reading would show that there is no contradiction. There is not a single doctrinal discrepancy in the Bible.
And, we have over 5000 manuscripts, some dating back almost 2000 years, that we can compare the modern translations to, to see how accurate they are to the original, and to correct the minor errors as our understanding improves. Every book in the Bible was written by a man who was directly influenced and inspired by God to reveal what He wanted us to know, using the voice of the author.
On the other hand, as I understand it, the Quran was written a couple hundreds years after the death of Mohammad by followers, a collection of sayings as the believers remembered them. The copies were compared to each other, an official version was put together, and ALL other existing "versions" were burned. We can't go back and compare different versions of his teachings, we can't look critically for errors in logic or typography, because we have nothing older to refer to. The content of the Quran aside as well as the behavior of Muslims in the Middle Ages, tending to provoke the Christian countries of Europe to crusade against them, it is difficult to compare the Quran and the Bible, because they just don't stand on equal ground...for investigation.
December 4, 2011 at 4:03 am |
So ... the Qu'ran is right because the Qu'ran claims it is right? Yeah, the buy-bull is the same way... nice circular arguement there.
For Mirosal'
No it is not right just because it claims so... read it and find for yourself and dispute any of the challenges that it throws upon you..is it hard for you to read?? im giving you an invitation so accept it ...READ IT TO PROVE IT WRONG!! make it a challenge for yourself that you will prove it wrong!! is it that difficult??
Shame on you CNN. You know America has always been a melting pot of religions. Facts are simple from a simple person. Mess with mine I mess with yours. Bomb my country and I will put rifle in my hands. Not pretty ,but effective. I am Afro American and would give my life for another American.
Facts are simple why do they believe in religion so much more then us. Simple they have no where to go and nothing to do.
Fact no mass transit system. Fact no dessert I have seen yet has turned into a rain forest. Fact its hotter then hell and there is no way my black azz is going outside in that heat either. Now America is a playground of resources and ideas. Fact is rich are not going into dessert to rebuild those peoples lives there over their for the oil.
Fact our religious wake jobs don't go to Muslim communities because the minute they sit down fill out the passport info and have the f.b.i meeting with them because there posting crazy stuff on the internet or buy stuff to build bombs or rifles or tiring to get on board a US flight with a rifle. America is going lock there azz up.
Please let me make my post of July 12 at 1:00 pm clearer. In the last senecnte I should have written: "In fact, in many immorality is taught CONTRARY to Catholic or Christian (Biblical) teaching." Thank you for posting my correction.
September 6, 2012 at 11:51 pm |
Defend Islam all you want, the fact is they are now where the Christians were during the Inquisitions. They just need to catch up and practice what they are trying to sell the world. They claim it is a religion of peace yet they are blowing each other up daily. They want to blame the West for their troubles yet their own nations are close to civil war because of how they treat each other. Sunni and Shia can’t agree and they both want to blame Jews and Christians for their troubles. They have no sense of the value of a woman and need to realize it’s time to stop worrying about the male ego. As for me, I will never fear my God, because I know he is so powerful and bigger than anything I can imagine, he does not require my fear, nor is his ego so big that he won’t just laugh at my questions. Peace Out.
December 4, 2011 at 3:41 am |
OK, whatever, sounds like you just need a reason to feel better about your God and religion.
December 4, 2011 at 3:47 am |
islam is a religion of moral without grace. it teaches moral and enforce it . in the other hand the christian religion is a way of life hanging on the grace of God from the moment you have given your life to Christ and one has accept Him as his or her Lord and savior, which we called born again as Christian. In Islam, your eligibility to go to Aljanna depends on your performance of your Islamic rituals like: going to mecca once in your life time, paying sakat and sadakat, giving things to the needy, fasting during the month of ramadan, praying 5 times a day. Once you are able to do those things, eventhough you destroy life others or you steal it doesn't count. And another things is that the more you are religious as a muslim the more you the people of toher faiths look like a devil and as long as they are not Muslims they must be killed if they are not ready to be converted to islam. In Islam, every sin you comited have a kind of prayer you offer Allah and you are free.Even if you rerlate with another man's wife. Though they are comited to their religion, unfortunately none of them have assurance of where they are going at the end except that there is 32 vifgings awaiting everyone muslim in Aljanna. All born again christian have assurance of heaven. You can contact me if you need more explanation. Thanks
December 4, 2011 at 3:37 am |
KOLA, haha, apparently your understanding of Islam comes from Sunday hate schools. All you said about Islam is completely false.
Where did you come with this knowledge about Islam? Moslems believe in the 10 commandments, including not killing (any mankind) and not stealing, etc. They believe Jesus and Moses were Moslems (worshipping the same God and submitting to him). No prayer is guaranteed to forgive sins, no priest can help in Islam. I can go on and on.
It is interesting to believe that 1.5 billions can be brainwashed. Christianity started in the middle east and most moslems knows about it more than Christians in the US. You need to read about the sectors of Christianity to discover that most Christian today are adopting St. Paul's version of Christianity which were neither dominant nor the correct view of Christianity.
I hope you will discover "true" Christianity which does not differ significantly from Islam. May God guide all of us.
December 4, 2011 at 3:54 am |
I see none but Muslims responded to your very nice post, KOLA. And all they say is the opposite of the truth.
Oh, they do not like your post because it is truthful! They don't like that at all!
It makes me laugh to think of them or him/her stewing at what you have said!
Now if they would just do us all a favor and die of apoplexy like every good extremist should, then wouldn't that be excellent? Oh, yes!
can you provide reference of any verse from Al-Quran about any of the allegations that you have made...im sure you CANNOT provide any because none of your accusations are supported by Al-Quran...the word ISLAM means " to attain peace" and Al-Quran does not allow any physical killing/slaughter of people. it just proves my point that you keep on talking out of ignorance based upon what you see and hear in your society rather that studying Al-Quran itself to find out what muslims are SUPPOSED to do, NOT what they are actually doing....you will find vicious criminals who align themselves to any religion of the world but it does not make that religion wrong...if only the Holy book of a religion tells you to do a crime, then it will make that religion criminal ..so please yet again I invite you to read Al-Quran and see for yourself what it says...do not base your judgement upon what people tell you about it
December 4, 2011 at 4:58 am |
im giving you just one referenc from Al-Qran..Surah Baqarah (2) Verse 84 that clearly mentions that Allah does NOT allow blood shed
And remember We took your covenant : Shed no blood amongst you, nor turn out your own people from your homes: and this ye solemnly ratified, and to this ye can bear witness.
AND one reference from BIBLE in which it orders to kill non believers...the same allegation that you are making against Islam..read it for yourself...hope it opens up someones eyes!!!!
I am laughing because Aazim's eyes must be like a frog's! I can almost hear you choking, Aazim! May you die soon!
Peace be upon you Mr Prabu!!
You can do nothing to me with your false blessing but make me laugh some more!
I have always admire their B&W thinking when it comes to their faith. It's ALL. No backdoors, no blah, blah, blah. Love that.
Either man destroys religion or religion destroys man
December 4, 2011 at 3:35 am |