The need to fill the void of ignorance, page 3
Infinity is a concept and cannot be reached. Infinity is an ongoing process that never ends, it cannot be obtained by anyone or anything because it does not consist of a specific value or amount. An "infinite being" cannot exist and nothing can reach infinity. Your statements don't make any sense at all.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:05 PM
There's a literal loop hole in your statement further described as: Perpetual frames of reference recycling as a constant function of present tense. Imagine the entire Universe was your new HDTV. The TV cycles information at a particular refresh rate based on the technology at the time. First off, eliminate time from the equation. Secondly, understand these frames of reference are set in an endless loop creating Infinity. Last but not least, assembling as a collective the aforementioned frames truly defines what "this" is.
Synonyms: everlasting, foreverness, eternity, perpetuity
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:10 PM
There is no loop. I am simply telling you that infinity is NOT a value and it CANNOT be reached. No matter how high or far you go, the number will continuously rise forever. If you start from 0 and reach 999 quintrillion * 999 sextillion to the power of Google, you still have an infinity to go if you're attempting to "reach" infinity. Do you understand now? This is getting #&%!ing ridiculous.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:27 PM
Infinity is not a numeric value or nothing of the sort. It's a loop. It's the same loop that creates black holes from two opposing magnetic fields driven to a head. The only thing ridiculous here is your inability or unwillingness to comprehend anything beyond www.merriam-webster.com....
All I've seen you do is reach for definitions embedded in a language crafted to fit a vast majority of people. By your own logic those definitions must be opinions as well. You starting to get this? I've reached Infinity because I'm a part of it. My mass assembles and reassembles right along side our planet, our solar system, this galaxy, and everything above and below my perceived spectrum. We are refresh rates simply put. This is a concept of Infinity you might try to wrap your mind around at some point.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:46 PM
Yes, it's a loop, but you said there was a "loop" in my statement and did not elaborate any further. Still, you're contradicting yourself when you admit that it has no numerical value and then assert that it can be reached because you're part of it. I'm not arguing from opinion; I'm arguing from facts and logical absolutes. Infinity is the concept of a value greater than any finite numerical value. It can also be a dimension or quantity of sufficient size to be unaffected by finite variations, which is the way it is used in certain aspects of physics. At least I know what I'm talking about when it comes to terminology.
I don't need you to act like a prick and pretend that you know more with some sort of philosophical argument that has no basis on evidence. Apologetics is a good term to describe the position you're asserting. All you've done so far is presenting uncritical acceptance of a concept or theory that you have not proven.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:50 PM
Don't get your back up here, I'm not taking any more runs at you.
But isn't there a problem from the present moment perspective then, relative to what it's coming out of, and moving in to?
There can be no present moment, sandwiched in infinity, since it's impossible to count down from infinity via any series, to one.
Life is a flow then, a process, and a creative one at that, but creativity, to be creative, must also be novel, fresh.
The whole notion of an arrow of time is flawed, right from the get go.
There is no time, and the phenomenal world of causation is an illusion, but a very persistent one.
I purport that all there is is spirit and truth, nothing else, and everything is an eternal manfestation of that, of which we are an integral part.
an eternal, evolutionary recurrance, whereby not one thing is left out, everything processed, as the very supply, through learning, of what is formative, and functional, and therefore constructive or creative, and helpful, fun.
In the space of nothing and absolute UNcertainty (an open mind), nothing else arises BUT fun, love, mutuality, joy, creativity, recreation, play. At least that's what was there for me when I became present to nothing, to the void, just spirit and truth inspiring love. I think it's the very reason everything was made.
You're starting to sound like a solipsist. Please, spare your argument for another time with someone else. Cognitive relativism shouldn't be so hard for you and Americanist to understand, but apparently it is. This A Priori argument has gone way too far and has become too ridiculous for my standards, ridiculous to the point of rendering this entire thread off-topic and pointless. Nice job.
It IS ridiculous, yes, but it's not unreasonable. I know about nothing, and there's something there.
The need to fill the void of ignorance, page 3
Infinity is a concept and cannot be reached. Infinity is an ongoing process that never ends, it cannot be obtained by anyone or anything because it does not consist of a specific value or amount. An "infinite being" cannot exist and nothing can reach infinity. Your statements don't make any sense at all.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:05 PM
There's a literal loop hole in your statement further described as: Perpetual frames of reference recycling as a constant function of present tense. Imagine the entire Universe was your new HDTV. The TV cycles information at a particular refresh rate based on the technology at the time. First off, eliminate time from the equation. Secondly, understand these frames of reference are set in an endless loop creating Infinity. Last but not least, assembling as a collective the aforementioned frames truly defines what "this" is.
Synonyms: everlasting, foreverness, eternity, perpetuity
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:10 PM
There is no loop. I am simply telling you that infinity is NOT a value and it CANNOT be reached. No matter how high or far you go, the number will continuously rise forever. If you start from 0 and reach 999 quintrillion * 999 sextillion to the power of Google, you still have an infinity to go if you're attempting to "reach" infinity. Do you understand now? This is getting #&%!ing ridiculous.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:27 PM
Infinity is not a numeric value or nothing of the sort. It's a loop. It's the same loop that creates black holes from two opposing magnetic fields driven to a head. The only thing ridiculous here is your inability or unwillingness to comprehend anything beyond www.merriam-webster.com....
All I've seen you do is reach for definitions embedded in a language crafted to fit a vast majority of people. By your own logic those definitions must be opinions as well. You starting to get this? I've reached Infinity because I'm a part of it. My mass assembles and reassembles right along side our planet, our solar system, this galaxy, and everything above and below my perceived spectrum. We are refresh rates simply put. This is a concept of Infinity you might try to wrap your mind around at some point.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:46 PM
Yes, it's a loop, but you said there was a "loop" in my statement and did not elaborate any further. Still, you're contradicting yourself when you admit that it has no numerical value and then assert that it can be reached because you're part of it. I
'm not arguing from opinion; I'm arguing from facts and logical absolutes. Infinity is the concept of a value greater than any finite numerical value. It can also be a dimension or quantity of sufficient size to be unaffected by finite variations, which is the way it is used in certain aspects of physics. At least I know what I'm talking about when it comes to terminology.
I don't need you to act like a prick and pretend that you know more with some sort of philosophical argument that has no basis on evidence. Apologetics is a good term to describe the position you're asserting. All you've done so far is presenting uncritical acceptance of a concept or theory that you have not proven.
posted on Jan, 11 2011 @ 09:50 PM
Don't get your back up here, I'm not taking any more runs at you.
But isn't there a problem from the present moment perspective then, relative to what it's coming out of, and moving in to?
There can be no present moment, sandwiched in infinity, since it's impossible to count down from infinity via any series, to one.
Life is a flow then, a process, and a creative one at that, but creativity, to be creative, must also be novel, fresh.
The whole notion of an arrow of time is flawed, right from the get go.
There is no time, and the phenomenal world of causation is an illusion, but a very persistent one.
I purport that all there is is spirit and truth, nothing else, and everything is an eternal manfestation of that, of which we are an integral part.
an eternal, evolutionary recurrance, whereby not one thing is left out, everything processed, as the very supply, through learning, of what is formative, and functional, and therefore constructive or creative, and helpful, fun.
In the space of nothing and absolute UNcertainty (an open mind), nothing else arises BUT fun, love, mutuality, joy, creativity, recreation, play. At least that's what was there for me when I became present to nothing, to the void, just spirit and truth inspiring love. I think it's the very reason everything was made.
You're starting to sound like a solipsist. Please, spare your argument for another time with someone else. Cognitive relativism shouldn't be so hard for you and Americanist to understand, but apparently it is. This A Priori argument has gone way too far and has become too ridiculous for my standards, ridiculous to the point of rendering this entire thread off-topic and pointless. Nice job.
It IS ridiculous, yes, but it's not unreasonable. I know about nothing, and there's something there.